so I've made a character that aged after level one and increased his INT score to the next higher even number.
can he now automatically learn a new language without investing a rank in linguistics?
same question goes for levelup increase every fourth level.
Intelligence only affects the number of languages your character knows at the start of the game. "The number of bonus languages your character knows at the start of the game." (emphasis added)
so if I start adventuring middle aged I get another language, else not.
ok, thanksOTOH: I "start" at 5th level
with a character that aged at 3rd level
but that will be a DM call
You technically start at level 1. If you're given enough free experience to instantly level to 5, that's cool and all, but you still base your starting languages off of what your Int is at level 1.
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You technically start at level 1. If you're given enough free experience to instantly level to 5, that's cool and all, but you still base your starting languages off of what your Int is at level 1.
This may be technically correct, but if so it's a holdover from 3.5, and one that synchronizes oddly with everything else.
See, in 3.5 stat-boost advantages fom Int weren't retroactive, meaning you got new skill points each level based on your current Int, but raising Int didn't raise skill points on it's own.
That's no longer true in Pathfinder, with Int and skills or anything else. Int raises now retroactively raise skills, granting you your HD in new skill ranks when appropriate. I don't see why bonus languages should work differently (though I understand the argument that they do), so I'd personally say they don't work any differently and you get your language.
Is that RAW? Probably not. Is it RAI and more in-tune with the rest of the game's rules? Yes, I think it is.
I mean, the intent is to be able to look at a character sheet and count things like skill ranks and languages and immediately be able to tell if anthing is wrong, just based on the numbers, without going through chargen and leveling step-by-step. Making the language gains non-retroactive messes that up, since it easily results in two otherwise identical characters with different numbers of languages, since one took Int 13 and Con 14 at level 1, and the other took the reverse.
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See, in 3.5 stat-boost advantages fom Int weren't retroactive, meaning you got new skill points each level based on your current Int, but raising Int didn't raise skill points on it's own.
That's no longer true in Pathfinder, with Int and skills or anything else. Int raises now retroactively raise skills, granting you your HD in new skill ranks when appropriate.
Are you sure this isn't just a change in the house rules you play under? I don't recall anything like that in the Pathfinder rules and couldn't find anything supporting it when looking in likely spots the past ten minutes.
I'd say no, it doesn't give you a new language, but you have additional skill points you can spend on Linguistics...
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Permanent Bonuses: Ability bonuses with a duration greater than 1 day actually increase the relevant ability score after 24 hours. Modify all skills and statistics related to that ability. This might cause you to gain skill points, hit points, and other bonuses. These bonuses should be noted separately in case they are removed.
It is in the glossary. And yes, it is an unlikely location.
In 3.5 if your intelligence got lowered or if you got level drained it was nigh impossible to remember which skills should be reduced because intelligence did not reward skill points retroatively.
PAthfinder made int retroactively increase skills to avoid dealing with it.
When an ability score changes, all attributes associated with that score change accordingly. A character does not retroactively get additional skill points for previous levels if she increases her intelligence.
Permanent Bonuses: Ability bonuses with a duration greater than 1 day actually increase the relevant ability score after 24 hours. Modify all skills and statistics related to that ability. This might cause you to gain skill points, hit points, and other bonuses. These bonuses should be noted separately in case they are removed.It is in the glossary. And yes, it is an unlikely location.
DR is correct, and that reference is in a bad place. It always annoys me because I always forget where it is even though I know what the rule is.