Dragon vs. incorpreal


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An incorporeal creature has no physical body. It can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, magic weapons or creatures that strike as magic weapons, and spells, spell-like abilities, or supernatural abilities.

Does a dragon's attacks count as magical attacks? Or if a character has damage reduction 5/magic, will dragon attacks bypass the dr?


Nope, the dragon's claws don't count as being magic. A dragon normally has treasure and they are smart creatures so not having a way to deal with incorporeal monsters is not likely.

DR that is bypassed by magic weapons has nothing to do with being incorporeal.
Incorporeal beings take half damage from magic weapons, but it is not DR.

I would get the dragon a scroll of magic fang or the amulet of mighty fist.


Back in 2nd ed they counted as 'magic'... not so in the later editions apparently.


A dragon's breath weapon is supernatural. That should be enough to put paid to the majority of incorporeal critters. Some dragons have other supernatural abilities (i.e., a Black Dragons acidic bite). All dragons (depending on age category) gain spells as well.

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nogoodscallywag wrote:
Does a dragon's attacks count as magical attacks? Or if a character has damage reduction 5/magic, will dragon attacks bypass the dr?

Definite yes to the second question:

Bestiary p. 91 wrote:
Their natural weapons are treated as magic weapons for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.

Does this make a dragon a "creature that strikes as a magic weapon"? Are there any examples of creatures that do strike as magic weapons for all purposes, as opposed to just for overcoming DR?


Oh nice pickup.

That changes matters.

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