[solved]Question about Crafting and the Djinni Style


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Magical item creation

"Note that all items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item's creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed). The DC to create a magic item increases by +5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet. The only exception to this is the requisite item creation feat, which is mandatory. In addition, you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting their spell prerequisites."

In other words, if u can't cast the spell yourself, getting it from a wand or scroll, or a friendly party member is ok, and does NOT increase the DC, but by "skipping" the spell it goes up by +5 for each spell you don't do ?

"This process can be accelerated to 4 hours of work per 1,000 gp in the item's base price (or fraction thereof) by increasing the DC to create the item by +5." This can only be done once right ? I remembered the wording a bit different, but as it stands here i belive it can only be done once.

Onward to something different.

Djinni Style. Efreeti Style. Marid Style. Shaitan Style.

in Efreeti, Marid and Shaitan style it says, "While using the this Style and Elemental Fist feats to deal" (a specific energy damage that corresponds to the style), you gain a bonus to damage and some other stuff, depending on the style. but Djinni Style has "While you are in this style you must use Elemental Fist to deal electricity"

Is it:
1: A typo in Djinni style and the other 3 are correct (this i think might be the right thing)
2: A typo in Efreeti, Marid and Shaitan, and that Djinni is the correct wording (seems a bit more unlikly imo)
3: They are all correct, and Djinni Style was considered to powerful if it could be used with a different energy type from Elemental Fists


You can accelerate the process everyday. There is no limit.

All are correct. Djinni has the air subtype, and associated with electricity. It is a flavor issue more than a power issue.


Wraithstrike, working 4 hours per 1000 g each day is a given, it was simply me who remembered the wording wrong.
(thought it was something along the lines of add +5 to DC and halve the number of hours spent per 1000G, and that could then be considered to stack, so a +10 to the DC would be 2 hours work per 1K gold)

Anyways, thank you for the help.


You know, this does keep coming up about Djinni every so often...

seems to me the issue is that Djinni Style provides a dodge bonus (to AoO) at all times VS an extra effect/perk on a single attack made with elemental fist
(so they restrict Djinni's elemental fist use entirely to electricity based on this)

Quote:
(thought it was something along the lines of add +5 to DC and halve the number of hours spent per 1000G, and that could then be considered to stack, so a +10 to the DC would be 2 hours work per 1K gold)

Even if it is the case that it stacks, I believe there's something in there that to make any progress a crafter has to spend AT LEAST 4 hours for a given day. And I don't think you get to make multiple checks per day.

Could make for an interesting houserule in a high magic/lots of crafting setting though

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