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I'm still getting my head around various things in Pathfinder, so please bear with me.
When the young simple template is applied to the eagle (and ability to fly is removed), does it look like this?
YOUNG EAGLE
N Tiny Animal
Init +6; Senses low-light vision; Perception +10
DEFENSE
AC 16, touch 16, flat-footed 12 (+4 Dex, +2 size)
hp 3 (1d8-1)
Fort +1, Ref +6, Will +2
OFFENSE
Speed 10 ft.
Melee 2 talons +5 (1d3-2)
STATISTICS
Str 6, Dex 19, Con 8, Int 2, Wis 15, Cha 7
Base Atk +0 CMB -1; CMD 13
Feats Weapon Finesse
Skills Perception +10; Racial Modifiers +8 Perception
Assuming full rebuild.
Melee 2 talons +5 (1d3-2)
Looks like you forgot to apply the new size modifier on the melee to hit rolls.
BAB + DEX mod + size mod (using weapon finesse)0 + 4 + 2 = 6
STATISTICS
Str 6, Dex 19, Con 8, Int 2, Wis 15, Cha 7
Base Atk +0 CMB -1; CMD 13
I also see a problem with combat maneuvers.
CMB = BAB + STR mod + size mod
however, tiny or small creatures use their DEX modifier in place of STR (PFRPG 198) so,
CMB = BAB + DEX mod + size mod
CMB = +0 +4 + (-2) = +2
CMD = 10 + STR mod + DEX mod + size mod
CMD = 10 + (-2) + 4 + (-2) = 10
Thanks for the help!
I found this Monster Builder at http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-advancer today. If it's applying the template correctly, I was off on a *lot* of things, heh!
Thanks for the help!
I found this Monster Builder at http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-advancer today. If it's applying the template correctly, I was off on a *lot* of things, heh!
Never used that tool so I can't vouch for it's overall accuracy, but it clearly is not applying the template properly in this case, as it doesn't match the numbers I've shown above. The DEX and CON are obviously wrong, Natural Armor went unchanged, and it didn't calculate CMD using DEX.
I ran Hero Lab today and made an eagle with the young template applied and this is what I got. It looks very much like what you had with the corrections I suggested. Between the two, I would go with Hero Lab's numbers, especially since they match my own calculations. ;-)
HATCHLING EAGLE CR 1/2
Young Eagle
N Tiny Animal
Init +4; Senses Low-Light Vision; Perception +10
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DEFENSE
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AC 16, touch 16, flat-footed 12 (+4 Dex, +2 size)
hp 3 (1d8-1)
Fort +1, Ref +6, Will +2
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OFFENSE
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Spd 10 ft., Flight (80 feet, Average)
Melee Bite (Eagle) +6 (1d3-2/20/x2) and
. . Talon x2 (Eagle) +6 x2 (1d3-2/20/x2)
Space 2.5 ft.; Reach 0 ft.
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STATISTICS
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Str 6, Dex 19, Con 8, Int 2, Wis 15, Cha 7
Base Atk +0; CMB +2; CMD 10
Feats Weapon Finesse
Skills Fly +12, Perception +10, Stealth +12
Languages
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SPECIAL ABILITIES
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Flight (80 feet, Average) You can fly!
Low-Light Vision See twice as far as a human in low light, distinguishing color and detail.
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