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For many shot, just get a double barreled pistol. voila...manyshot.
Please take a moment to read the actual feat's text:
Manyshot "When making a full-attack action with a bow..."
Manyshot cannot work with a fire-arm. You could use Rapid Shot with the double barreled pistol (but the -2 penalty from rapid shot is cumulative with the penalty from shooting from both barrels).
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For many shot, just get a double barreled pistol. voila...manyshot.Please take a moment to read the actual feat's text:
Manyshot "When making a full-attack action with a bow..."
Manyshot cannot work with a fire-arm. You could use Rapid Shot with the double barreled pistol (but the -2 penalty from rapid shot is cumulative with the penalty from shooting from both barrels).
I don't think he meant literately using manyshot. I think he meant that double barreled pistols + two weapon fighting is the poor man's version of it.
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Now I just need to figure out my feat tree.
I also have a pistolero (currently 3rd level). Rapid reload, point blank shot, rapid reload, and deadly aim stood out as the feats to take at levels 1-4. Other feats I'm considering taking in the next few levels include improved critical, precise shot, and extra grit. Snap shot also looks good, even with the prerequisites.
Weapon finesse is for melee weapons, so you would be better off having a blade or something else light to hit with if you take weapon finesse. Plus, hitting with the butt of a gun probably counts as using an improvised weapon, and that has it's own negatives to hit. As for firearms in general, I do not think strength makes a difference in shooting or that there is a rule where low strength makes recoil worse, unless I missed it.
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Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area South & West
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Weapon finesse is for melee weapons, so you would be better off having a blade or something else light to hit with if you take weapon finesse. Plus, hitting with the butt of a gun probably counts as using an improvised weapon, and that has it's own negatives to hit.
From the Pathfinder Reference Document/Ultimate Combat:
Pistol-Whip (Ex): At 3rd level, the gunslinger can make a surprise melee attack with the butt or handle of her firearm as a standard action. When she does, she is considered to be proficient with the firearm as a melee weapon and gains a bonus on the attack and damage rolls equal to the enhancement bonus of the firearm.
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Weapon finesse is for melee weapons, so you would be better off having a blade or something else light to hit with if you take weapon finesse. Plus, hitting with the butt of a gun probably counts as using an improvised weapon, and that has it's own negatives to hit.From the Pathfinder Reference Document/Ultimate Combat:
Pistol-Whip (Ex): At 3rd level, the gunslinger can make a surprise melee attack with the butt or handle of her firearm as a standard action. When she does, she is considered to be proficient with the firearm as a melee weapon and gains a bonus on the attack and damage rolls equal to the enhancement bonus of the firearm.
My suggestion would be to take Agile Maneuvers If you plan on doing alot of Pistol whipping. Using your Dex for CMB vs. Str will increase the chakce of knocking the target prone.
That is cool. That leaves the question of is there any official rule that says what firearms, if any, count as a light weapon when using that. If there is not, then I could see a lot of GM variation when ruling on this.
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Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area South & West
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That is cool. That leaves the question of is there any official rule that says what firearms, if any, count as a light weapon when using that. If there is not, then I could see a lot of GM variation when ruling on this.
I'd say none of them qualify as light weapons. The Firearms table (in Ultimate Combat) only has categories for One-Handed and Two-Handed firearms. The main Weapons table in the core rulebook has three categories for melee weapons - Light, One-Handed and Two-Handed. The absence of the Light category from the Firearms table seems pretty conclusive.
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One thing to bear in mind is that using the pistol-whip deed isn't very economical, as each use of it costs 1 grit point.
Ryphus: any reason you've not got rapid shot in your feat wish list? With deadly aim and pistol training from 5th level, you'll get +8 damage to every shot (assuming 18 Dex), so maximising the number of shots per round seemed like a good idea to me.
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Also I am using paper cartridges to get reloads down to a swift. There is no way to get it down to a free is there?
Where are you getting swift from? Rapid reload (UC 115) reduces the reload time to a move action, and using alchemical cartridges (UC 140) reduces it further to a free action.
Also, you have precise shot at 2nd level; shouldn't that be 1st level? I'm not convinced it's the best choice for a gunslinger at first, given that you're aiming at touch AC in many cases.
This is turning into more of a rules/advice thread than a PFS thread...