| Grand Magus |
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Perhaps *they* realized ka is a wheel.
http://screenrant.com/dark-tower-movie-warner-bros-sandy-158976/
Warner Bros. is reportedly near to closing a deal
that would ensure (at least) one feature based on King’s
post-apocalyptic, western-flavored magnum opus ends
up being made.
| Matthulu |
I hope it never happens personally. There is no way that it can be done right. There is just way too much that happpens. The Lord of the Rings was only three books long and had three long movies based on them that had tons of stuff taken out. Imagine trying to do seven movies. A tv series would have a slightly better chance to be good, but not much I just dont think there would be enough interest for a network to pick it up for that long.
| JMD031 |
As a TV series you are looking at least 7+ years of running the show and that is if they stay on track with the story and don't add/take out anything. Also, the books themselves are uneven with the first and sixth books being smaller than most of the others and the last book being huge (but yet still feeling rushed...).
| VikingTopHat |
I don't see any way of successfully adapting the books to film. The Dark Tower series just isn't all that coherent. It's an enthralling, meandering fever dream. The only direction I can think of would be the "inspired by" route, which would piss off thousands of die-hard fans. How do you make The Gunslinger into a film (in which even King admits to have not really known was going on), or Wizard and Glass (3/4ths of which is a years-ago flashback featuring only one familiar character)?
| Andrew Tuttle |
Thanks for the thread, Grand Magus.
Last I heard about this project, it was mixed "A Movie / Then a several-year TV Series / Then A few Movies" pitch, so it's clear some of the concerned parties have an idea of the scope of adapting the series to a visual medium (big or small screen). And that production team looks very sharp.
I'm pretty forgiving about adaptations, a good movie or series of movies is usually about a good story or concept, and they've got some great material to adapt if this ever gets off the ground.
I always enjoy seeing how folks adapt stuff as well. As VikingTopHat noted, the story meanders in-and-out of different points-of-view / time / space / realities, so it'd def be a tricky business ... but I think it could be pulled off. It'd be a joy to see it done well.
And I'd love to see Javier Bardem as Roland. I hope something comes from this.
-- Andy
| Orthos |
I'm with Zombie. I would watch it. But I don't think it'll make it as a movie. There's just too much, and it's not linear enough by a long shot.
RE: Wizard and Glass: I think, personally, this one should sequence-break somehow. Either stick it at the beginning, end with Roland telling the story on the highway, then "but that comes later..." and fade to the beginning of Gunslinger. Or cut it out completely. Other than the introduction of the Wizard's Rainbow and the hints toward Black Thirteen, I don't think it much necessary to the series and story as a whole.*
Merge the rest of Wizard and Glass (Blaine, Topeka, highway, emerald castle) with Waste Lands as one unit.
I could go either way on merging Gunslinger and Dot3. *shrug*
Book Seven might take two seasons to get through. That thing's a beast.
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Also gonna get it out now, loved Wolves. Even though most people say it's the worst book in the series - I thought Song got that spot personally.
| Ambrosia Slaad |
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It looks like Sony is (was?) negotiating with Matthew McConaughey to play Walter Padick/the Man in Black, and now they want Idris Elba as Roland Deschain? I'm not much of a fan of King's books, and even less so their movie adaptations, but I'd really really like to see Elba vs McConaughey in a The Gunslinger film.
Lord Snow
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It looks like Sony is (was?) negotiating with Matthew McConaughey to play Walter Padick/the Man in Black, and now they want Idris Elba as Roland Deschain? I'm not much of a fan of King's books, and even less so their movie adaptations, but I'd really really like to see Elba vs McConaughey in a The Gunslinger film.
I'm really hoping this series gets done... but if it is there are so many ways it could go horribly wrong. I mean hack, even the books went horribly wrong in the second half of this story. Regardless, I *love* the first two books and consider The Waste Lands to be on of the best fantasy books ever written (Blaine is a PAIN, and that is the truth) and I would give a lot to see a good adaptation of it.
| Kirth Gersen |
I loved the books (until the second half of the last one, anyway). I respect Idris Elba as an actor, but, dear gods, the "Elba needs to be everything!" thing needs to go. I admit that I think he'd be a good James Bond, which is where the meme started, I think. But now I can't turn around without seeing "Idris Elba should play him!" Just saw one on Facebook about, "You've been Santa for 1,000 years, now Idris Elba should be Santa!" Saw a recommendation that he play Sherlock Holmes somewhere. Now this. What's next, "Idris Elba stars as Founding Father Thomas Jefferson in a new biopic?"
Lord Snow
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I loved the books (until the second half of the last one, anyway). I respect Idris Elba as an actor, but, dear gods, the "Elba needs to be everything!" thing needs to go. I admit that I think he'd be a good James Bond, which is where the meme started, I think. But now I can't turn around without seeing "Idris Elba should play him!" Just saw one on Facebook about, "You've been Santa for 1,000 years, now Idris Elba should be Santa!" Saw a recommendation that he play Sherlock Holmes somewhere. Now this. What's next, "Idris Elba stars as Founding Father Thomas Jefferson in a new biopic?"
I haven't actually seen him in anything or heard of him before this, so I don't actually have an opinion. I'm a little sad we'll never get to see those blue bombardier's eyes, but actually getting an actor who looks like I imagined Roland would be difficult anyway.
| Orthos |
The only things I've seen him in have been Pacific Rim and the Thor movies. I liked what I saw so I'm not averse to giving him a chance, but both of those were fairly minor roles comparatively. I've never seen the stuff he's been a main character in.
They can probably do the eyes with contact lenses though. Those are kinda a big thing about Roland in the books - almost every description of him pays a ton of attention to his eyes.
Lord Snow
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The only things I've seen him in have been Pacific Rim and the Thor movies. I liked what I saw so I'm not averse to giving him a chance, but both of those were fairly minor roles comparatively. I've never seen the stuff he's been a main character in.
They can probably do the eyes with contact lenses though. Those are kinda a big thing about Roland in the books - almost every description of him pays a ton of attention to his eyes.
Oh, he was in Thor and Pacific Rim. Guess I did see him then but just didn't pay attention. I don't recall being particularly impressed by either character but as you say they were both minor so who knows.
I guess the blue color of the eyes is not quite as important as the intense, piercing stare that refuses to get weary even after all his long travels. That can work with any color, I suppose.
| Otherwhere |
I like Elba (loved Luther!) but - no - he is not Roland.
Lance Henrikson is Roland. Period.
Okay - I've had a chance to think about this. And get my blood sugar back up.
Scott Glenn would have been a great Roland, too.
And Viggo. Viggo would be a good choice.
Idris is a very strong actor, very powerful, but just not right for Roland.
But Lance will always be Roland in my mind. He's who I saw and heard when I read the series. Which would work much better as a TV series than a movie. (It would need the kind of temporal/narrative fluidity of LOST due to all the moving forward and backwards with the characters' stories.)
Lord Snow
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Otherwhere wrote:I like Elba (loved Luther!) but - no - he is not Roland.
Lance Henrikson is Roland. Period.
Okay - I've had a chance to think about this. And get my blood sugar back up.
Scott Glenn would have been a great Roland, too.
And Viggo. Viggo would be a good choice.
Idris is a very strong actor, very powerful, but just not right for Roland.
But Lance will always be Roland in my mind. He's who I saw and heard when I read the series. Which would work much better as a TV series than a movie. (It would need the kind of temporal/narrative fluidity of LOST due to all the moving forward and backwards with the characters' stories.)
Oh man, I haven't thought of Vigo. Vigo could have been fantastic, for sure.
| Orthos |
Orthos wrote:The only things I've seen him in have been Pacific Rim and the Thor movies.He was phenomenally good in Seasons 1-2 of The Wire, and apparently he stars in a BBC show called Luther.
He was OK as the ship captain in Prometheus.
None of which I've seen, so I will defer to the more educated for an opinion on those =)
Hama
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Kirth Gersen wrote:None of which I've seen, so I will defer to the more educated for an opinion on those =)Orthos wrote:The only things I've seen him in have been Pacific Rim and the Thor movies.He was phenomenally good in Seasons 1-2 of The Wire, and apparently he stars in a BBC show called Luther.
He was OK as the ship captain in Prometheus.
Well the Wire is worth watching. Luther too if you don't have a weak stomach. Prometheus is worth watching, mostly because of Elba's performance and Michael Fassbender's
| Ambrosia Slaad |
Kirth Gersen wrote:None of which I've seen, so I will defer to the more educated for an opinion on those =)Orthos wrote:The only things I've seen him in have been Pacific Rim and the Thor movies.He was phenomenally good in Seasons 1-2 of The Wire, and apparently he stars in a BBC show called Luther.
He was OK as the ship captain in Prometheus.
Elba is underutilized in the Thor films and Pacific Rim. Luther isn't a particularly ground-breaking gritty police series in writing or direction, but Elba and the other actors, particularly Ruth Wilson, elevate it to something truly memorable. There is a two-part Luther "Season 4" special airing in the next couple days on BBC1, so I imagine it should pop up shortly thereafter on BBC America. Hopefully, they'll re-run the other seasons on BBC America too.
I've heard very good things about Elba in The Wire, and great things about the show overall... but I haven't seen any of it yet.
| Hitdice |
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Orthos wrote:Kirth Gersen wrote:None of which I've seen, so I will defer to the more educated for an opinion on those =)Orthos wrote:The only things I've seen him in have been Pacific Rim and the Thor movies.He was phenomenally good in Seasons 1-2 of The Wire, and apparently he stars in a BBC show called Luther.
He was OK as the ship captain in Prometheus.Elba is underutilized in the Thor films and Pacific Rim. Luther isn't a particularly ground-breaking gritty police series in writing or direction, but Elba and the other actors, particularly Ruth Wilson, elevate it to something truly memorable. There is a two-part Luther "Season 4" special airing in the next couple days on BBC1, so I imagine it should pop up shortly thereafter on BBC America. Hopefully, they'll re-run the other seasons on BBC America too.
I've heard very good things about Elba in The Wire, and great things about the show overall... but I haven't seen any of it yet.
What happened to me was, I gained access to HBOGo, and I had the weekend off, so I was all, "Oh, hey, I'll just watch the pilot episode of The Wire, y'know, to see if I like it." The next thing I knew, I was halfway through season 2, it was Monday morning and I was late for work.
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I really like Elbas work and while I have now qualm about 'changing colour' for any fictional character, for me part of Roland is a play with western / spaghetti western tropes.
I do think the character would work best on screen if he immediatly connects to that tropes. Newer westerns challenge and change the tropes that were (Django unchained, apparently The Hateful Eight and the Magnificient Seven reboot)and so far I like that a lot, so I would be happy to see Idris Elba as Roland - I just think I would be even happier to see Viggo Mortensen or, lets say Mads Mikkelsen.
I agree that Henrikson would have been great as Roland, just as Clint Eastwood or Franco Nero, but for aan upcoming move we will probably have to settle for someone a few years younger.