Magic Item Creation: "Finishing Check" DC Rules & FAQ't finding [Duplicate Issue]


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I have been over the rules for Magic Item Creation and I *think* I found a rules incongruency, but I might be wrong so please let me know.

The last component of Magic Item Creation (after time and money/materials) is a Skill/Finishing Check that the creator must complete in order to create a properly functioning Magic Item. However, I have found two different numbers for this check in the Core Rule book.

From the Core Rules: Feats Chapter: Item Creation Feats subheading & description -

PRD - Core - Feats wrote:
Skill Check: Successfully creating a magic item requires a Spellcraft check with a DC equal to 10 + the item's caster level. Alternatively, you can use an associated Craft or Profession skill to attempt this check instead, depending upon the item being crafted. See Magic Item Creation for more details on which Craft and Profession checks may be substituted in this manner. The DC of this check can increase if the crafter is rushed or does not meet all of the prerequisites. A failed check ruins the materials used, while a check that fails by 5 or more results in a cursed item. See Magic Items for more details.

So what we're getting is the finishing check is "10 + the item's caster level" for Magic Item Creation.

Conversely in the Magic Item Chapter, the first paragraph of the section -

PRD - Core - Magic Items - Magic Item Creation wrote:
To create magic items, spellcasters use special feats which allow them to invest time and money in an item's creation. At the end of this process, the spellcaster must make a single skill check (usually Spellcraft, but sometimes another skill) to finish the item. If an item type has multiple possible skills, you choose which skill to make the check with. The DC to create a magic item is 5 + the caster level for the item. Failing this check means that the item does not function and the materials and time are wasted. Failing this check by 5 or more results in a cursed item (see Cursed Items for more information).

Here in the detailed Magic Item Creation rules we see the check is "5 + the caster level for the item".

So, which is it? 5 or 10? And why are there two different numbers listed? Am I going to far with this?


found that on a different thread.

"Q: In Chapter 4: Feats (pg. 112), the DC to craft a magic item is 10 + the item's caster level. In Chapter 15: Magic Items (pg. 548), the DC is listed as 5 + the item's caster level. Which is correct?

A: (Jason Bulmahn) I believe the Magic Items chapter is correct and the DC should be 5 + caster level, but I am still looking into the issue. Either way, this will be corrected. [Source]"

that was copied from the FAQ, so it should be 5 + caster level.


Mucronis wrote:
that was copied from the FAQ, so it should be 5 + caster level.

Excellent... I hope this will be changed on the PRD after the 6th printing errata.


I've already opened a thread on this a couple days ago. Feel free to pop in an add to the number of FAQs. If I recall correctly, JB said at some point that it is supposed to be 5 + CL, but it still needs offical errata and/or FAQ, since his last quote is from May of 2010.


Thanks for the heads up, everyone should FAQ the Jackalope's Original Thread. This is a duplicate issue.

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