| Azaranex |
When players level and add enough bonuses to their abilities to modify it by +1 do they retroactively apply that bonus to previous levels? IE: If a wizard levels and gains a +1 ability and goes from 17 to 18 do they gain all of the previous levels skills at the +1 in addition to the new +4 bonus they gain by having the +4 modifier? Another instance, if a character gains a +1 to his con, a 15 to 16 (+3) con do they gain the additional hit points for retroactive levels or do they just gain it to that level? I.e., an additional +1? I just need a quick clarification on this. I think they gain the bonus only for their level but I need to know it if retroactively applies to previously gained levels because to my mind they have already gained those levels at they were neither that healthy nor that smart at those levels. An official answer would be great. Thanks.
| ddarsey |
"All bonuses are retroactive when an ability score increases, be they bonuses to damage, to skill ranks, to hit points, to saves, to skill checks... all of them. Skill ranks not being retroactive are a 3.5 convention we specifically removed from the game because it was a weird exception to the rule, and since now there are no exceptions to this rule, there's no need to specifically state that skill ranks are retroactively granted if your Intelligence goes up."
[James Jacobs]
I found this on another site.
Jiggy
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When players level and add enough bonuses to their abilities to modify it by +1 do they retroactively apply that bonus to previous levels? IE: If a wizard levels and gains a +1 ability and goes from 17 to 18 do they gain all of the previous levels skills at the +1 in addition to the new +4 bonus they gain by having the +4 modifier? Another instance, if a character gains a +1 to his con, a 15 to 16 (+3) con do they gain the additional hit points for retroactive levels or do they just gain it to that level? I.e., an additional +1? I just need a quick clarification on this. I think they gain the bonus only for their level but I need to know it if retroactively applies to previously gained levels because to my mind they have already gained those levels at they were neither that healthy nor that smart at those levels. An official answer would be great. Thanks.
Have a look in the Glossary of the CRB:
Ability bonuses with a duration greater than 1 day actually increase the relevant ability score after 24 hours. Modify all skills and statistics related to that ability. This might cause you to gain skill points, hit points, and other bonuses.
(Emphasis mine.)
| Azaranex |
The problem I am having it is does not specifically state it is retroactive for past gained levels. I see what you are saying Jiggy and I appreciate it. I think my players are correct and normally I do not ask about this kind of thing and run games all the time but this just sounded so wonkey. It might be just a 3.5 leftover and if that's the case that's fine. In AD&D it didnt work that way but in 3.0 and 3.5 it did. Thanks for your answers. Any further info would be appreciated.
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