| beepeearr |
Just got my first case of PF Battles, best prepainted Minis I've ever bought. Loved that I got at least 1 of every mini, and they all looked really good.
But there was a few cons, and since it looks like they are moving to larger sets in the future anyways, now would be a good time to fiddle with the rarity and packaging for future sets.
I can't stress this enough though, please find away to keep them so that 1 case can usually complete a set, especially if the price is staying the same. As they stand now they feel a little over priced (270 for 64 minis).
Ok, what I would personally love to see, and something I think would be great for future releases, is having a common and uncommon category for Medium/Small minis, and an uncommon and rare category for Larges.
Have 3 large blisters per brick still with 1 uncommon large and 1 rare large per blister. This does a few things.
1) It allows you to have a set with say 12 large rares and 6 common larges. Its great to get an extra ogre, minotaur, or giant spider, but usually you only need 1 dragon, chimera, manticore, or frost giant chieftain.
2) It cuts down on wasted space in the packaging
3) It leaves room for a huge/tiny set later on, each brick will still have one rare and uncommon but one would be huge and one tiny, say a uncommon tiny stirge with a Rare huge beetle, or an uncommon huge treant with a tiny rare fairie queen.
Then you have 9 Medium/small blisters per brick with 2 minis or a small pairing in each (great concept loved the goblin pairings, but felt the gnome should have been paired with a halfling thief, and the dire rat with either a variant dire rat, like one on all fours [my preference], or another small animal type monster), with one for a common mini or small pairing and 1 for an uncommon mini or pairing. The benefits of which is the following
1) It allows each set to have 18 uncommons, this means in a case you should get 2 of each uncommon (or small pairing), and 9 commons for 4 of each common (or pairing) per case (great for minions, but equally good for normal encounters too)
2) It cuts down on wasted packaging, man I can't stress this enough, each case results in a bunch of trash.
3) It adds more minis to a brick, and helps justify the high cost of a brick or case which, and still should still give a complete set. Say each large booster is 10 dollars now, and every Medium/Small booster is 5 dollars, it would make a case at be 300 dollars, but with enough more minis, you don't mind the higher cost (more larges help with this feeling a lot). The price per minis is way better too, 5 per larger, 2.50 per medium and 1.25 per small. Just over 3 dollars per mini for a full case
One major problem is that the above number only works for a set of 50 not 60, assuming 5 small pairings say 2 uncommon, 3 common. At 60 minis per case the price per case would become to high, at least to me anyways, or the avg price per mini would drop below 3 which is probably to low for Wizkids. Raising the case to 5 bricks instead of creates all new issues, and to be honest 4 bricks was better for a more even distribution.
Basically I really like the new minis, I love the selection for commons, I only wish the randomization was better, winding up with three of most of my uncommons and a few rares but getting just 1 or only 2 of quite a few commons was just weird. Plus I liked the ettin, but I would have rather doubled up on the ogre instead, or gotten two frost giants or cave spiders instead of 3 minotaurs.
With the above, a kid could walk into a store with 20 bucks and have enough minis for an encounter (just the bad guys mind you), with 25 he could get two large creatures for the encounter, too. With 35 he can do an encounter against 6 large creatures (I'm accounting for sales tax by the way) and that is just cool. For 80 bucks he can get a whole brick, basically the cost of two hardback rule books.
Enlight_Bystand
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I suspect that it's impossible to maintain the present price for the case and get a full set since RotRL is 60 minis. I'm also almost certain that they will be moving from single minis per pack to a box with several minis in it
| Steve Geddes |
Is it feasible/undesirable/impossible to have two identifiable cases (red and blue, say) with overlapping commons and uncommons but disjoint rares?
it seems to me you could then guarantee* a complete set by buying one of each clearly identified cases without pushing the price or size of a single case up too high. Collectors would obviously need to buy more minis to get a full set, but then that's kind of obvious if "the full set" is now 60 instead of 40.
| beepeearr |
At there current price per case, I can't see too many people buying multiple cases, I know I won't be. One of the things that killed DDM is that the price per case went up so high that buying multiple cases became unfeasible, especially as the number of cases needed to get near a complete set increased too.
The whole appeal of PFB is the whole set in 1 case, which is roughly priced at where DDM was for 2 cases back at its height of popularity. You get less overall minis, but at least you don't have to hunt down any missing rares (usually 4 in the first sets, I quit collecting them after I spent over 300 for my cases and had like 9 missing minis, one an uncommon).
If Paizo and Wizkids can find a way to get a better rarity distribution per case, without going over three hundred, and still get a complete set per case, I would buy a case every set. They are already did two of those things, now they just need to fix the rarity issue.
I personally would love a case to give you 4 of each common, 2 of each uncommon, and 1 of each rare.
This would be awesome, and I think might really help sales of whole cases to the non collectors too. If you know you are running a campaign against ogres and orcs with a white dragon at the end, and a set has two orc commons (so four of each sculpt), two ogre uncommons (two of each sculpt), and a rare ogre chieftain and a large white dragon your more likely to get a whole case. Also with better numbers of commons and uncommons it might inspire more people to buy a case and then base their campaigns on the set.
For this set I bought a case. I did get a complete set, so yay to that, but I wound up with more rares then a few of my commons. Three Watch Guards or Watch captains would have been way more usable then the three Lichs and Ettins I got in my case.
So I bought another brick from FLGS, so now I have at least 2 or 3 of most rares 3 or 4 of all uncommons, and 4 to 5 of most common, but still I only have 1 watch officer.
So I hit the internet and spent another 60 on singles.
So all in all I spent over 400 on this set, which is about a hundred more then I would have liked, but I can live with it since its the first set and I want to see future sets. Great minis, love the complete sets, just find a way to fix the rarity issue, and maybe give more miniatures per case at roughly the same price per case and a great product becomes an awesome one.
Cpt_kirstov
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At there current price per case, I can't see too many people buying multiple cases, I know I won't be. One of the things that killed DDM is that the price per case went up so high that buying multiple cases became unfeasible, especially as the number of cases needed to get near a complete set increased too.
Not True, what killed DDM was that the price went up, as the quantity *AND* quality went down. I preordered one for this set. I wish I preordered 3 if cases are under $350 for the RotRL set, I plan on preordering 2-3 and picking up some extra rune giants (if they are in fact the preorder mini) Many people preordered up to 5 cases of this set. The current price per mini is actually lower than DDM's last 3 sets.
The whole appeal of PFB is the whole set in 1 case, which is roughly priced at where DDM was for 2 cases back at its height of popularity.
I Disagree here too, the appeal isn't the whole set in 1 case. I routinely go the whole set of DDM in a case and 8 boosters, trading 3-4 times using doubles. the appeal is in the quality and the ability to get sculpts of new monsters based on Paizo art.
If Paizo and Wizkids can find a way to get a better rarity distribution per case, without going over three hundred, and still get a complete set per case, I would buy a case every set. They are already did two of those things, now they just need to fix the rarity issue.
the next set has 60 minis. A huge white dragon has been mentioned as being in packs. They also mentioned that with the bigger number of things in sets, packs would most likely no longer be one mini per pack
Is it feasible/undesirable/impossible to have two identifiable cases (red and blue, say) with overlapping commons and uncommons but disjoint rares?
The main issue with this is that many small stores don't have enough collectors to buy 2 cases. They will only splurge on one case for non-preorders. So their loyal collectors will have to spend more money on shipping or go to other stores, loosing them customers.
| beepeearr |
I'm thinking more from the perspective of a casual purchaser of minis now, the kind that don't normally buy a case and almost certainly don't spend over a thousand dollars on minis (5 cases). I didn't decide to purchase them myself because of the price, 280 a case is pretty steep for a little over 60 minus, until I heard the reviews of complete sets with just one case.
As far as DDM goes it was the increase in price combined with the decrease in quantity per blister and per case, ddm was never really known for quality, it was a source of cheap prepainted plastics, but in the end they were no longer cheap, I can't speak to the quality of the sets in the latter days of 3rd and the 4th sets, since I had already stopped purchasing them by that point when the price of two cases had reached well above 300.
Personally I've never gamed or even met in person someone who bought cases of minis other than myself, but I've never met anyone with master maze, a collosal red dragon, or terra clips either, but I have met plenty of people who would buy blisters here or there and even a few younger ones who were trying to get a complete set one blister at a time.
PFB look great, way beyond any of the ddm sets, and their commons are much more useful, so at close to three hundred I can justify the cost, if I can get a complete set in case, or at least close. Throw in a few more copies of each common and I'm okay with pricing the cost at 300, especially if there are 6 bricks per case. 50 dollar bricks can lead to more casual purchases at the store level. As a dad I'm way less likely to balk at at 50 dollars then 75 or 80 when my son asks.
These are just my opinions, and the full set things isn't an issue of collecting them, its more a way to satisfy those of us who no longer want to play the whole rarity game anymore. Pay a larger up front fee (case price), but you should get everything you need
| Steve Geddes |
The whole appeal of PFB is the whole set in 1 case, which is roughly priced at where DDM was for 2 cases back at its height of popularity. You get less overall minis, but at least you don't have to hunt down any missing rares (usually 4 in the first sets, I quit collecting them after I spent over 300 for my cases and had like 9 missing minis, one an uncommon.
Sure - but there's a difference here in the number of different minis in a set.
Maybe it would be clearer in a set of 80 minis, for example. You considered a case reasonable value providing there was a decent chance you got a full set of forty minis (plus sensible repeats) - wouldn't it be equally reasonable to buy two cases to get a set of 80 minis?
From the comments on the boards, I don't think multiple sets is that unlikely. I'm surprised game stores are only buying single cases.
| beepeearr |
Ok Since I have had noting better to do then think about Pathfinder Battles today
So how about something along these lines. We know there will be uncommon larges in the next set, so why not something like
Large Blisters= 1 Rare large, 2 mixed Uncommon Large (Huge sets could have 1 Huge Rare, 2 Uncommon Tiny, or Two Uncommon Huge, 1 Tiny Rare)
Medium Blisters= 1 Rare, 2 mixed Uncommon, 2 sets of matching Commons, ie 2 skeletons, 2 zombies (Small Rares, Uncommons, or Commons still come paired in place of 1 medium)
So a Large blister might look like 1 Frost Giant, 1 Ogre, 1 Troll or 1 Chimera, 1 Minotaur, 1 Ettin
A Medium blister might have looked like 1 Lich, 1 Half-Elf Cleric, 1 Mummy, 2 Skeletons, 2 Zombies or 1 Werewolf, 1 Human Druid, 1 Gnome Fighter, 1 Dire Rat, 2 Wolves, 2 Blue Goblin Hero, 2 Blue Goblin Warrior
A Brick could have 2 Large Blisters, 3 Medium Blisters roughly the same size as the Large Blisters. I think this could help individual sales of the medium blisters quite a bit, still color coded to avoid confusion though.
Each Brick would have 3 extra larges and 5 extra mediums or small pairs. So 12 extra larges and 20 extra mediums or small pairs per case
A case could still be 4 Bricks, even with a 6o mini set with something like 16 Commons (8 being two sculpts of 4 small pairings), 14 Uncommons (4 being two sculpts of 2 small pairings), 14 Rares (4 being two sculpts of 2 small pairings), 8 Large Uncommons, 8 Large Rares.
As far as pricing goes if you wanted to keep the same brick price as now you could do 15 per blister Large or Medium since the Medium has four more Minis then the Large, or maybe the Larges a little more and the Mediums a little less. For three larges, 1 of which is always a Rare, 20 would be fine, for a brick price of 85 with 15 Dollar Medium boosters, and 8 additional miniatures, 3 of which are larges, Increased price is fine if it also increases in value.
I would be happy, still should be able to get a complete set with 1 case, would decrease on the amount of packaging trash, bigger blister boxes can also see more functionality after opening. I'm using the Large blister boxes to separate minis into individual encounters and storing them together in a brick box, but the medium blisters are just too small to really be useful.
Plus by packaging the commons in matching sets and 4 to a box with 2 uncommons and a rare it would be like getting a whole encounter in every blister. It may not seem like much but the two sets of matching commons can go a long way to making a bunch of random miniatures feel more cohesive. A Werewolf, Half-elf cleric, Druid, 2 wolves, and 4 goblins seems like an interesting story, while a Werewolf, Half-elf cleric, Druid, a wolf, 2 goblins, a lizard folk champion and a skeleton seems a little more all over the place.
| beepeearr |
"Sure - but there's a difference here in the number of different minis in a set."
I do get that the set number is going up, but I also felt the initial set was a little over priced to begin with.
"From the comments on the boards, I don't think multiple sets is that unlikely. I'm surprised game stores are only buying single cases."
I assume you meant multiple cases, not sets. Very few casual buyers ever post on the boards, so if your posting here your probably pretty dedicated. Now some casual buyers will read the boards, but not very many ever feel the need to post. I've been gaming since the late 80's when I was just a kid with graph paper and a few ral partha minis here and there. But while I read the boards here and other places I don't really post a whole lot (well except for the past few days obviously)
And to be honest with you its because I really like this product. They are the best plastic minis I've ever seen, I've like about 90% of the scults and about 99% of the paint jobs, I only had 1 quibble with the set selection and that was the Gnome Fighter/Dire rat pairing, love the small pairing concept though.
The only issues I had, was with the rarity distributions, Ie fewer commons then some rares, and the price. I overlooked the price because of the buy one case, get near a full set. Now granted, now that I've seen them, I realize the actual product looks a lot better then the pictures online, so if the price does go up with the next set, I at least know the quality is there.
As much as I like them, I can live with the price per case going up if the rarity issues are resolved and they can keep near a complete set per case, ie more minis per case but more expensive to compensate for the extra minis in the set.
If it becomes a buy multiple cases to maybe get a full set type of thing though, and the cases don't go down in price, then no I probably won't buy another set. There just is no way I can justify spending over 500 dollars on minis 2 to 4 times a year depending on what they decide the production cycle to be.
I wound up spending around 400 for this set, after getting an extra brick and hitting the after market, if the case price goes up to around 350 but you get closer to 4 commons, 2 Uncommons and 1 rare, and still get near a complete set, I'm ok, I would honestly prefer 300 or below, especially if they don't get the rarity issue resolved.
| beepeearr |
"I'm surprised game stores are only buying single cases."
They might have when they first came out. I bought my case last week online, got them thursday and went off in search of a sealed brick saturday. Most of the local stores only had one brick, already opened, with no large Blisters left, 1 had 1 large blister, and another had a few sealed bricks, but was charging 9 dollars for large blisters. That store was also the only one that had any PFB on display an ogre mixed in with a bunch of DDM and a medium taped to the open brick, forgot which one though. He also was selling the Medium blisters for 3 and offered to trade me 1 sealed medium blister for my extra ettin.
I was more surprised by the lack of any kind of displays to be honest.
| Steve Geddes |
"Sure - but there's a difference here in the number of different minis in a set."
I do get that the set number is going up, but I also felt the initial set was a little over priced to begin with.
Fair enough. I consider them cheap so that probably skews the perspective - I'm also a subscriber so got mine early and with a discount. I'm curious though, how your opinion that they were a little overpriced gels with you being willing to pay $400? That's not an attack or anything, I just would have thought you don't think they're too expensive, since you were willing to pay the price being asked.
"From the comments on the boards, I don't think multiple sets is that unlikely. I'm surprised game stores are only buying single cases."
I assume you meant multiple cases, not sets.
Yeah, I did. Cheers
Very few casual buyers ever post on the boards, so if your posting here your probably pretty dedicated. Now some casual buyers will read the boards, but not very many ever feel the need to post. I've been gaming since the late 80's when I was just a kid with graph paper and a few ral partha minis here and there. But while I read the boards here and other places I don't really post a whole lot (well except for the past few days obviously)
Do you think there are 'casual buyers' who will buy a single case though? I can see a bunch of people picking up individual minis or buying by the brick or something. For those looking to collect at least a full set though - I can't see why you wouldnt expect to pay more for a full set containing 60 unique minis than you would for a full set made up of 40.
And to be honest with you its because I really like this product. They are the best plastic minis I've ever seen, I've like about 90% of the scults and about 99% of the paint jobs, I only had 1 quibble with the set selection and that was the Gnome Fighter/Dire rat pairing, love the small pairing concept though.
The only issues I had, was with the rarity distributions, Ie fewer commons then some rares, and the price. I overlooked the price because of the buy one case, get near a full set. Now granted, now that I've seen them, I realize the actual product looks a lot better then the pictures online, so if the price does go up with the next set, I at least know the quality is there.
As much as I like them, I can live with the price per case going up if the rarity issues are resolved and they can keep near a complete set per case, ie more minis per case but more expensive to compensate for the extra minis in the set.
If it becomes a buy multiple cases to maybe get a full set type of thing though, and the cases don't go down in price, then no I probably won't buy another set. There just is no way I can justify spending over 500 dollars on minis 2 to 4 times a year depending on what they decide the production cycle to be.
I wound up spending around 400 for this set, after getting an extra brick and hitting the after market, if the case price goes up to around 350 but you get closer to 4 commons, 2 Uncommons and 1 rare, and still get near a complete set, I'm ok, I would honestly prefer 300 or below, especially if they don't get the rarity issue resolved.
I agree that the weird rarity issues should be addressed (both the fact that some 'uncommons' are rarer than some 'rares' and that there are at least two distinct populations of 'rare' - given the distinction exists, why not label them clearly as rare and very rare?)
.I actually am not as taken with the look as you are (a lot of the figures are a little too cartoony for my tastes), but art is always subjective so that's hardly something worthy of a complaint.
| beepeearr |
"I'm curious though, how your opinion that they were a little overpriced gels with you being willing to pay $400? That's not an attack or anything, I just would have thought you don't think they're too expensive, since you were willing to pay the price being asked."
Fair, at close to three hundred per case, I felt they were a little over priced, I spent the money on an extra brick because I was hoping to round out my commons at 4, didn't work out as planned, so I wound up hitting the after market. I would have saved 70 dollars had I gone straight to the after market, that was my mistake, not a pricing issue. I could have gotten the whole set and 4 of all commons, and a about 6 extra larges including an extra frost giant and cave spider for about 50 extra over the case price. So about 26 extra minis for only 50 over case price.
Basically If the cases were 175 a piece or maybe even 200, I would be more okay with two cases for a set, but unless they start bundling there cases in sets of two, you will miss some rares. Because one of everything is in a single case usually, it has kept the singles market relatively cheap (except for Paizo's own singles). I want to see this product succeed. 300 for a case (and complete set) is my preferred, 350 I'm somewhat ok with, but over 400 is where I just walk away. And two case at the current case price tops that limit.
"Do you think there are 'casual buyers' who will buy a single case though?"
I did, I hadn't bought a new Mini in about 3 or 4 years, and for the first set of DDM I completed the set by purchasing a ton of individual blisters, before finding a better way to it by buying cases on forums like this. I guess I'm more concerned about the casual buyer who is about to become a collector.
"For those looking to collect at least a full set though - I can't see why you wouldnt expect to pay more for a full set containing 60 unique minis than you would for a full set made up of 40"
Ok, for a sixty mini set, Paizo can go a few routes, stay as is, and say buy two cases
Boo
Stay mostly as is and just increase the case size to six consecutive bricks instead of four, and probably with a price increase
Or fix the Common to rare ratio provide more minis in one case of four bricks for a slight increase justifying it with the extra minis.
To be honest they could go more bricks or more minis in a brick, but if they can keep it to one case per set I would be happiest.
The good news it does sound like Paizo wants to fix the rarity ratio, they do realize they are currently a little over priced as is, judging by comments in these forums.
"I actually am not as taken with the look as you are (a lot of the figures are a little too cartoony for my tastes)"
Which begs the question why are you ok with paying over 500 for two cases to complete the set :D
The Trolls and Orcs were the only ones that really bothered me, always preferred my Orcs more a yellowish gray over green. Mainly I'm comparing these straight up against DDM, and these so far are definitely superior to them, I also like the harder plastic used in these. The paint jobs are better, and commons make sense, and thats a huge bonus to me.
| Steve Geddes |
"For those looking to collect at least a full set though - I can't see why you wouldnt expect to pay more for a full set containing 60 unique minis than you would for a full set made up of 40"
Ok, for a sixty mini set, Paizo can go a few routes, stay as is, and say buy two cases
Boo
Stay mostly as is and just increase the case size to six consecutive bricks instead of four, and probably with a price increase
Or fix the Common to rare ratio provide more minis in one case of four bricks for a slight increase justifying it with the extra minis.
To be honest they could go more bricks or more minis in a brick, but if they can keep it to one case per set I would be happiest.
I guess I just dont understand the fixation on 'price per case', since case is an arbitrary distinction. If they make the cases twice as big for 150% the price it would be an improvement. Making them half price and one quarter the size would be a price hike.
"Price per case" doesnt seem to mean anything (to me anyhow). It's meaningless without reference to how many minis are included in the arbitrary grouping of 'one case'.
I suppose it's also worth pointing out that all of this is presumably not Paizo's choice (though they no doubt have input) but rather up to WizKids. Presumably there are a whole bunch of other factors we're clueless about as to why the various bundles are sized the way they are.
The good news it does sound like Paizo wants to fix the rarity ratio, they do realize they are currently a little over priced as is, judging by comments in these forums.
I'm hoping so. The number of commons didnt really bug me, but the existence of super-rares and just-plain-ordinary-rares is something I'm going to want to know about when it comes to ordering cases of the RoTRL set.
"I actually am not as taken with the look as you are (a lot of the figures are a little too cartoony for my tastes)"
Which begs the question why are you ok with paying over 500 for two cases to complete the set :D
I prefer cartoony minis to whatever else I was going to spend the money on (closer to $800, actually - I got three cases, three premiums and had them all shipped to Australia).
The Trolls and Orcs were the only ones that really bothered me, always preferred my Orcs more a yellowish gray over green. Mainly I'm comparing these straight up against DDM, and these so far are definitely superior to them, I also like the harder plastic used in these. The paint jobs are better, and commons make sense, and thats a huge bonus to me.
See I prefer the DDM look (that's what I mean about it all being subjective). I dont really have a preference on brittleness. Definitely agree with you about the common/rarity choices (although I wish the 'playable classes' were all rare, personally).
| beepeearr |
""Price per case" doesnt seem to mean anything (to me anyhow). It's meaningless without reference to how many minis are included in the arbitrary grouping of 'one case'."
That's kind of my point, If I can get a full set with a good ratio of rares to common (ie I want more goblins, skeletons, zombies and guardsmen)in one case, I don't mind if that one case is more expensive, but if I'm going to need multiple cases to achieve the same result that price would then become more prohibitive. The number of cases isn't really the issue it's the price to complete a set and get a good number of commons too.
"I'm hoping so. The number of commons didnt really bug me, but the existence of super-rares and just-plain-ordinary-rares is something I'm going to want to know about when it comes to ordering cases of the RoTRL set."
I thought of them more as Uncommon larges and Rare larges, which just by the previews is the new large ratios for the next set.
"Definitely agree with you about the common/rarity choices (although I wish the 'playable classes' were all rare, personally)"
Spellcasters for me, I can find a use for most Rogue or Fighters, but why do I do with my hoard of bards
| Steve Geddes |
"I'm hoping so. The number of commons didnt really bug me, but the existence of super-rares and just-plain-ordinary-rares is something I'm going to want to know about when it comes to ordering cases of the RoTRL set."
I thought of them more as Uncommon larges and Rare larges, which just by the previews is the new large ratios for the next set.
You mean the ettins were uncommon larges and cave spiders were rare larges?
I'd like that distinction to be made explicit before launch if the same thing holds true in the next set. I dont really see any reason to keep the fine points of the distribution a secret (maybe by publishing it they think they're open to more charges of 'failure' if someone gets a case which doesnt line up to the ideal?) and it's definitely going to affect how many cases I pick up.
Cpt_kirstov
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You mean the ettins were uncommon larges and cave spiders were rare larges?
I'd like that distinction to be made explicit before launch if the same thing holds true in the next set. I dont really see any reason to keep the fine points of the distribution a secret (maybe by publishing it they think they're open to more charges of 'failure' if someone gets a case which doesnt line up to the ideal?) and it's definitely going to affect how many cases I pick up.
Vic has gone on the record as saying that even Paizo was caught unawares about this until it was brought up in the case analysis thread. I think he also said they were discussing things with WizKids on the distribution issue brought up by said thread
Vic Wertz
Chief Technical Officer
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I suppose it's also worth pointing out that all of this is presumably not Paizo's choice (though they no doubt have input) but rather up to WizKids. Presumably there are a whole bunch of other factors we're clueless about as to why the various bundles are sized the way they are.
Yep. (And I'm still clueless about many of those factors too, but I'm doing my best to learn!) There's a lot of complexity when it comes to constructing a set. While it seems easy to say "put so many of these size at this commonality and those size at this other, and then box it all up in these ratios," the truth is they have to examine a lot of variables right down to the number of parts that need to be molded to make up a given figure. It gets pretty complicated.
When it comes to us giving input to WizKids on this sort of thing, we give them goals to achieve, and let them figure out the specifics of achieving them.
One of the primary goals we've given them is that we want it to be easy to figure out exactly what you need to buy to get a complete set most of the time. I know that requirement has added dramatically to the complexity of their task, but I think they're going to be able to satisfy that for us.
| Steve Geddes |
According to the previews for RotRL several of the larges in that set are called Uncommons. So yes, it looks like they are on top of it for the next set
Ah, good. I havent really been following the previews (I prefer the surprise when I open the cases - may as well take advantage of the blind, randomised nature). :)