Kryzbin, I notice the famous people (e.g., Obama) on your test's plot don't plot anywhere near where they do on Cranewings' test, even accoutning for the rotated axes. That right there makes me sort of question the validity (although I did come up 85% socially permissive on your test, so maybe it's not too far off!)
Yeah on mine Obama is in the bottom right hand corner.
Yeah on mine Obama is in the bottom right hand corner.
And the idea of Mr. National Defense Act Obama as "permissive" is a joke! Maybe yours is based on campaign promises?
... or maybe my refusal to accept the authority of any tests says more about me than it does about the tests?
Dunno. When you hit the political button, he's as far into democrat/liberal as you can be...
Dunno. When you hit the political button, he's as far into democrat/liberal as you can be...
Democrat =/= liberal any more, in almost any sense of the word! Granted, O's very into big government, but mostly to fund domestic surveillance and fuel defense; at the same time, he's very pro-big business.
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Yeah...I didn't make the chart, man :P
Maybe we need a new, 3-pronged scale. Something like:
1. Your view on government's ideal role in catching/suppressing/punishing dissidents and "bad people" (more/less)
2. Your view on government's ideal role in regulating big business (more/less)
3. Your view on government's ideal role in providing basic needs and wants (more/less).
Ron Paul would score very low on all 3.
Obama would be a zillion on 1, very low on 2, mid-range on 3.
I'd be all the way at the lowest end on item 1, midway on 2, and maybe slightly more than average on 3.
I'm somewhat amused that nearly everyone in this thread is nearer the bottom end of the chart and we're arguing over which of the cluster of people in the top-right corner is gonna boss us around for the next four years.
Habituees of OTD are not an accurate reflection of the American population. Unfortunately.
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Maybe we need a new, 3-pronged scale. Something like:
1. Your view on government's ideal role in catching/suppressing/punishing dissidents and "bad people" (more/less)
2. Your view on government's ideal role in regulating big business (more/less)
3. Your view on government's ideal role in providing basic needs and wants (more/less).Ron Paul would score very low on all 3.
Obama would be a zillion on 1, very low on 2, mid-range on 3.
I'd be all the way at the lowest end on item 1, midway on 2, and maybe slightly more than average on 3.
Then all those websites would have to create 3-dimensional graphs, and they just can't be bothered.
Then all those websites would have to create 3-dimensional graphs, and they just can't be bothered.Maybe we need a new, 3-pronged scale. Something like:
1. Your view on government's ideal role in catching/suppressing/punishing dissidents and "bad people" (more/less)
2. Your view on government's ideal role in regulating big business (more/less)
3. Your view on government's ideal role in providing basic needs and wants (more/less).Ron Paul would score very low on all 3.
Obama would be a zillion on 1, very low on 2, mid-range on 3.
I'd be all the way at the lowest end on item 1, midway on 2, and maybe slightly more than average on 3.
What's a "Z-axis"? :P
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Thankfully, I'm slightly economically to the right of the goblin...
But more anti-authoritarian! No surprises there, except that the Dalai Lama apparently plots very close to where I do.
On February 11, 2011, Citizen Gersen wrote to me:
"I begin to understand the reason for your simplistic political views -- sheer disinterest."
Now that it turns out he's only, like, one point away from me, the question must be asked:
Who's got the simplistic political views now, mother f+%$er?!?
I've got a pretty good memory for a pothead.
Hey! My views aren't simplistic -- they just, um, currently vector in a single direction that I consider important.
As the original Kirth Gersen said, "I'm a monomaniac."
Taking Kirth's test since I do not have to go to some website that may be blocked at work.
1. Your view on government's ideal role in catching/suppressing/punishing dissidents and "bad people" (more/less)
8/10 But 0/10 for dissidents, 9/10 for catching/suppressing threats to life 7/10 for catching/suppressing threats to property, 5/10 for punishing threats to life and property
2. Your view on government's ideal role in regulating big business (more/less)
9/10 protecting life and limb from big and small business, 7.5/10 regulating big business enough to ensure employees have a reasonable quality of life, 6/10 regulating small business enough to ensure employees have a reasonable quality of life, 1/10 propping big business up, 4/10 propping small business up
3. Your view on government's ideal role in providing basic needs and wants
10/10 everyone eats, 9/10 everyone receives needed medical care, 8/10 everyone receives a 'good' eduction, 7/10 everyone has reasonable quality of life
Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77
No surprises there.
Count me in as part of the Ghandi Club
Ghandi was a hypocrite and a bigot.
...Do I spend too much time digging up the faults of heroes?
...Do I spend too much time digging up the faults of heroes?
I presume you've read Chris Hitchens' The Missionary Position? If not, I'd most definitely recommend it to you as something right up your alley.
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i'm not convinced Gandhi ever took this test.
...Do I spend too much time digging up the faults of heroes?I presume you've read Chris Hitchens' The Missionary Position? If not, I'd most definitely recommend it to you as something right up your alley.
Very much so up my alley. I have a rather sad love of researching the bad parts of our heroes.
Very much so up my alley. I have a rather sad love of researching the bad parts of our heroes....Do I spend too much time digging up the faults of heroes?I presume you've read Chris Hitchens' The Missionary Position? If not, I'd most definitely recommend it to you as something right up your alley.
Pro tip: don't have heroes.
I have, like, 3? David Bowie, George Carlin. No I guess 2.
I agree with Bowie.
I agree with Bowie.
And what have you got against Carlin?
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Also, I have nothing against George Carlin, but I prefer Bill Hicks. He was the shiznit!
Also, I have nothing against George Carlin, but I prefer Bill Hicks. He was the shiznit!
I like Bill Hicks, but he didn't have the same "work ethic" of Carlin. He reused material forever. He has routines that make me very uncomfortable and just go on far too long without eliciting, like, laughter.
I agree with Bowie.And what have you got against Carlin?
Nothin in particular.
Why is that all the internet is capable of remembering about David Bowie?
Unfortunately, he didn't dance with goblins in any of his other videos. That I know of.
Why is that all the internet is capable of remembering about David Bowie?
Unfortunately, he didn't dance with goblins in any of his other videos. That I know of.
I've never seen Labyrinth. One of my favorite movies is Dark Crystal. I figured, hey, Labyrinth a Jim Henson fantasy movie with living god David Bowie AND hot teenage Jennifer Connoly. Where can I go wrong? Then the first spontaneous song erupts, and I eject the tape and chuck it.
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Then you missed out on Sir Bidymere (sp?), a halfling-sized anthromorphed fox that rides into battle on a muppet sheep dog.
There's a reason they have a fast forward button.
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There's a reason they have an eject button.
FIXT
Sir Didymus...
Since the Republicans wisely settled on the "not bat-shit crazy" option, I think it's going to come down to the economy...more specifically, consumer confidence in the economy.
I'll vote for Obama, but I could live with either.
... I think it's going to come down to the
economy...more specifically, consumer confidence in the economy.
What do you mean by this -- are you saying you believe the President has
the power to make the economy good or bad? Thus, if the economy is goodit is a boon towards Obama, and if bad it is a boon towards Romney?
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... I think it's going to come down to the
economy...more specifically, consumer confidence in the economy.What do you mean by this -- are you saying you believe the President has
the power to make the economy good or bad? Thus, if the economy is good
it is a boon towards Obama, and if bad it is a boon towards Romney?.
I'm saying the American public will hold the president responsible for the (perceived) state of the economy. Whether or not this is fair is beside the point.
... I think it's going to come down to the
economy...more specifically, consumer confidence in the economy.What do you mean by this -- are you saying you believe the President has
the power to make the economy good or bad? Thus, if the economy is good
it is a boon towards Obama, and if bad it is a boon towards Romney?.
I'm saying the American public will hold the president responsible for the (perceived) state of the economy. Whether or not this is fair is beside the point.
What you say is very reasonable.
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Actually, I was hoping you would flip out and assert:*obviously* the
President can control the economy. Because then I was going to say
I agree, and I also agree George Bush destroyed the American economy and
made us a socialist failure by bailing out the banks.
:: kicks stone with toe, and walks away foiled again
I'm the President* of Page 7!