Rod of Cancellation vs Eidelon

[joeyfixit]

Can an Eidelon wield a rod of cancellation or would it simply negate the Eidelon and then be spent?

[Movin]

PFsrd Rod of Cancelation wrote:

This dreaded rod is a bane to magic items, for its touch drains an item of all magical properties.

Is an Eidelon an Item?

[joeyfixit]

Is a Prismatic Wall an item?

[Movin]

Unless you happened to craft this prismatic wall with a magic item creation feat or permanency casting the spell would still count as a spell effect and would not be countered by a rod of Cancellation.
admittedly permanency makes for a corner case of a spell either being a magic item or a spell effect but that's not the question.

RAI:

RAI it would make total sense for a Rod of Cancellation to be "anti-magic on a stick" for the next thing the "Anti-magic" side would touch.
There is no reason for the item to exist if the first time a person touches it, it activates. I would imagine it as having an obvious end to hold it at and an obvious end to touch other people with.
I figure if you are in the rules section that this sort of conjecture is unnecessary.

Anyway, hope this is helping. It really would be nice if they cleaned up the wording on the Rod.

[Diego Rossi]

Eidolons are creatures and a rod of cancellation do nothing to them, so they can use it without problems.

Even more interesting, golems and all constructs are creatures, not magic items, so are unaffected by a rod of cancellation.

[joeyfixit]

My assumption was that ot canceled the magic of anything it touches, including summoned creatures. The reason I brought up the Prismatic Wall specifically lists the ROC as one of the few things able to negate it. Which made me think that the ROC works on spell effects like summoned creatures (including Eidelons).

An obvious holding end seems like a big assumption, since the RAW make nonmention if it. I could easily see a DM asking if you're holding it with a hand that has a magic ring, and then announcing that your Ring of Spell Turning is now useless.

[Drejk]

joeyfixit wrote:

My assumption was that ot canceled the magic of anything it touches, including summoned creatures. The reason I brought up the Prismatic Wall specifically lists the ROC as one of the few things able to negate it. Which made me think that the ROC works on spell effects like summoned creatures (including Eidelons).

Specific rule overrides general rule. In this case general rule is that rod of cancellation only affects items. Prismatic wall has specific vulnerability to rod of cancellation built in, despite not being magic item.