Iterative Attacks and CMB

[cranewings]

If a fighter with a melee attack of +7/+2 makes a trip attack with his second attack, does he get his full CMB or CMB -5?

[TriOmegaZero]

CMB -5.

[cranewings]

That's what I thought. I just read something that confused me. Thanks.

[TriOmegaZero]

No problem. The relevant text is at the end of the second paragraph under 'Performing a Combat Maneuver'.

"Combat maneuvers are attack rolls, so you must roll for concealment and take any other penalties that would normally apply to an attack roll."

[DeivonDrago]

cranewings wrote:

If a fighter with a melee attack of +7/+2 makes a trip attack with his second attack, does he get his full CMB or CMB -5?

Your numbers are right. However, you shouldn't really regard it as CMB - 5. Rather, the CMB itself is based on your BAB which is lower after the first attack in a sequence of iterative attacks. So you have a different CMB - exactly the same way you have different attack roll modifiers.

[DeivonDrago]

DeivonDrago wrote:

cranewings wrote:

If a fighter with a melee attack of +7/+2 makes a trip attack with his second attack, does he get his full CMB or CMB -5?

Your numbers are right. However, you shouldn't really regard it as CMB - 5. Rather, the CMB itself is based on your BAB which is lower after the first attack in a sequence of iterative attacks. So you have a different CMB - exactly the same way you have different attack roll modifiers.

More specifically, what I wanted to say was that - it's not really a penalty as much as it's a lower bonus.