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I have a question about the green beam effect of prismatic spray. The effect is:
Poison (Frequency 1/rd. for 6 rd.; Init. effect death; Sec. effect 1 Con/rd.; Cure 2 consecutive Fort saves)
I don't understand the point of the secondary Con damage effect. The initial effect is death, so if you fail your save, you die and don't need further saves against the Con damage. If you pass your initial save, you avoid the poison altogether:
All afflictions grant a saving throw when they are contracted. If successful, the creature does not suffer from the affliction and does not need to make any further rolls. If the saving throw is a failure, the creature falls victim to the affliction and must deal with its effects.
Emphasis mine. So, what's the point of the Con damage?
Ok the description says 2 consecutive Fort saves. So, make the first save, then have to make the second to avoid the 1 Con/Rd?
That's how I interpret it.
Observation: This is one of the very few "save or die" effects still in the game.
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No it needs to be changed. The way the rules work is if you get attacked by a poison attack, you make the initial save at the moment of the attack. If you succeed you are not poisoned at all. If you fail you take the listed damage, if there are two effects you take the initial effect right away.
Afterward each time you make the save against the poison on your turn in the following rounds you take no damage for a success or take the secondary effects on a failure. The poison lasts until you make the requisite number of saves, you cure it via the heal skill or spell, or the duration runs out.
--Schoolhouse Vrock
Bit of a necro, but while we're at it, poison rules say if you make the initial save against the poison, no more effects. To me it looks like the con damage is just there as an after thought in case you happen to be immune to Death effects for some reason and isn't really expected to come up.
Bit of a necro, but while we're at it, poison rules say if you make the initial save against the poison, no more effects. To me it looks like the con damage is just there as an after thought in case you happen to be immune to Death effects for some reason and isn't really expected to come up.
But...But...
The poison isn't a death effect.
Bit of a necro, but while we're at it, poison rules say if you make the initial save against the poison, no more effects. To me it looks like the con damage is just there as an after thought in case you happen to be immune to Death effects for some reason and isn't really expected to come up.But...But...
The poison isn't a death effect.
It would be rather odd if something that literally causes "death" isn't death effect, but I see your point. RAW there is no phrase specifically calling it one.