| Wolfen Fenrison |
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The basic concept is you play a "character" based of the player's actual combined Chinese/Greek zodiac.
Races
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6r6KFirefQVMmE5YzAxOTItOTE0MC00MjZhLTk5YT ctODczYmJiNDJhNDMz
Classes
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6r6KFirefQVMWY0NGIyOGQtM2FmZS00NzYyLWJkMD MtN2FjNjY2MmQyNzVm
So far the races and classes are not balanced with core pathfinder. And for xp the characters should be treated as 1 level higher (or the EL of the encounter one lower).
Thomas LeBlanc
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I did something similar. I used a game specific zodiac for the month. My setting had 13 major gods, each represented as a year. Next, which elemental plane was closest to the prime plane (changed every 2 years). And finally, which alignment plane was closest (changed every 5 years). Each selection had 3 choices a player could chose from. This was before Pathfinder added traits.
Example: Slayer {Leo}(+1 to confirm critical), Lightbringer {LG god}(+1 on Will saves from undead abilities), Fire (fire resistance 5), and CE plane (+2 on saves vs. poison)
| Blue Star |
I've seen this before, I was the one who called out the gender flaw with this, back when yin/yang determined gender. That said, I'm still a Tiger with enough fire to end a continent. I think I'll be an adept. Good saves: fort/will. My martial weapon will be the Earth Breaker, because revolvers are exotic. I'll fiddle with skills and spells later. I'll be casting with Charisma.
| Wolfen Fenrison |
Working on Feats (This is a rough draft of the table).
Not sure if this is enough or do I need more?
| Wolfen Fenrison |
The original links don't work for me and the new link requires permission.
They all should be public and working now *crosses fingers*
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Added dragonmarks to races and their associated feats to the table. I'm hoping this will help give the greek zodiac more agency.
| Excaliburproxy |
I dunno. It seems like a fairly complicated game, but it could also maybe be something I would play. There is lots of book-keeping here, but I don't mind.
I am not sure why your warrior is so bad at defending himself and the wizard is so great at it. That seems odd to me and it makes it hard to visualize the game in my head. Are maguses all wizard kung-fu masters who can't throw a punch to save their lives? Meanwhile, warriors are like sword-kings and shit but can't avoid things as well as their less-physically-inclined team member. I just don't understand what maguses and warriors are like.
That said, I think that I want to call your magus and your warrior classes balanced against eachother. The Adept seems like it may suck, though. In the late game, melee will become less and less of an option for the adept as its BAB falls behind. At that point, he will just wish he had the skills and spells and saves of the magus. Maybe the extra hit point will offset this, but I see that as the weakest class going forward and I would always prefer playing the warrior and magus mechanically (either avoiding combat entirely to favor spells and survival or become Mr. Animal companion raging sneak attack guy).
As for feats: why would you choose hunters bond over animal companion? If you mean for this to only be the alternate "party buffing" class feature then take off the handle animal prerequisite. Or can you just get two animal companions this way? Or can you just take animal companion like 10 times (like you can for armor training apparently)? There needs to be a lot of rules clarifications in the feats document, I think.
Those are just my thoughts. I think a lot of this stuff is cool and could make for a really bizarre and unique game.
| Wolfen Fenrison |
I dunno. It seems like a fairly complicated game, but it could also maybe be something I would play. There is lots of book-keeping here, but I don't mind.
I am not sure why your warrior is so bad at defending himself and the wizard is so great at it. That seems odd to me and it makes it hard to visualize the game in my head. Are maguses all wizard kung-fu masters who can't throw a punch to save their lives? Meanwhile, warriors are like sword-kings and s@&! but can't avoid things as well as their less-physically-inclined team member. I just don't understand what maguses and warriors are like.
That said, I think that I want to call your magus and your warrior classes balanced against eachother. The Adept seems like it may suck, though. In the late game, melee will become less and less of an option for the adept as its BAB falls behind. At that point, he will just wish he had the skills and spells and saves of the magus. Maybe the extra hit point will offset this, but I see that as the weakest class going forward and I would always prefer playing the warrior and magus mechanically (either avoiding combat entirely to favor spells and survival or become Mr. Animal companion raging sneak attack guy).
As for feats: why would you choose hunters bond over animal companion? If you mean for this to only be the alternate "party buffing" class feature then take off the handle animal prerequisite. Or can you just get two animal companions this way? Or can you just take animal companion like 10 times (like you can for armor training apparently)? There needs to be a lot of rules clarifications in the feats document, I think.
Those are just my thoughts. I think a lot of this stuff is cool and could make for a really bizarre and unique game.
Since every other aspect of character creation was dominated by astrology, I wanted a broad but multifaceted option for players making their characters aside from feat selection. And I took the up and down of abilities to the original generic classes and exaggerated them. The whole game is meant feel archetypal, for each character to have mythic legendary quality. Chosen by or direct agents of fate/destiny.
If I were to give the Warrior all good save what would I take away?If I were to take away the Magus' good save what would replace them?
Sorry about the animal companion feat, I had a derp moment.
The feat chapter will get filled out, it is just a lot of work and I have very little free time.
Updated; added bracketed yin [negative]/Yang [positive] where it seemed appropriate, changed the yin/yang distribution for more diversity, removed animal companion as I forgot about hunter's bond (*derp*).
New links in case old ones don't because of revised upload
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| Wolfen Fenrison |
Took a nerf hammer to the Classes, changed Warrior to a quarter caster (but still gets cantrips) and Adept to half caster, and reduced everyones spells per day and spells known down to reasonable levels.
| Wolfen Fenrison |
Some ideas for archetypes I've been kicking around;
One would be replacing your weapon group proficiency with the soul knife's mind blade class feature, it would scale damage wise different with each class (magus worst [1d4/1d6/1d8], adept medium [1d6/1d8/1d10], warrior best [1d8/1d10/2d6]) and blade skills would be granted at the same levels.
Another would be replacing armor proficiency with the aegis' astral suit (magus can only form only astral skin, adept can only form astral armor, warrior can only form astral juggernaut), with the same customization points and options.
| Wolfen Fenrison |
I am not sure why your warrior is so bad at defending himself and the wizard is so great at it. That seems odd to me and it makes it hard to visualize the game in my head. Are maguses all wizard kung-fu masters who can't throw a punch to save their lives? Meanwhile, warriors are like sword-kings and s$*# but can't avoid things as well as their less-physically-inclined team member. I just don't understand what maguses and warriors are like.That said, I think that I want to call your magus and your warrior classes balanced against each other. The Adept seems like it may suck, though. In the late game, melee will become less and less of an option for the adept as its BAB falls behind. At that point, he will just wish he had the skills and spells and saves of the magus. Maybe the extra hit point will offset this, but I see that as the weakest class going forward and I would always prefer playing the warrior and magus mechanically (either avoiding combat entirely to favor spells and survival or become Mr. Animal companion raging sneak attack guy).
I've mulling this over quite a bit. I hope that reducing spell power for all the classes helps with this. It seems by making this a game where I worked on the concept first and worried about balanced as an after thought I exacerbated the ivory tower elements of the core game. For example if a magus took evasion, mettle, and what ever the fort version of that would be and then the improved versions. That would be 6 less spellcaster feats the magus can take, if you added iron will, great fort, and lightning ref than that 9 less feats. And the magus gets the least amount of bonus feats so every choice carries more weight.
Now everyone knows there is nothing wrong with playing against type, but most players have been trained by years of 3.0/3.5/pathfinder to optimise or get left behind/die.| Excaliburproxy |
I think things are a little more reasonable in imagining the flavor now, but I still think the adept is lagging behind pretty hard. 3/4 BAB is a pretty hard pill to swallow at higher levels. Maybe give them the three good saves and the highest amount of skills instead?
Just my thinking on the matter.