Can I slap you to death? or kill a man with my tongue if i have improved unarmed strike?


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I have (Improved)***edit unarmed strike, and am not a monk I choose to make my damage lethal can I just slap my opponent to death dealing lethal damage? do i have to use a closed fist. I can see the argument against me kicking you to death because unlike a monk not every part of my body is a weapon.......


Were on unarmed strike does it state what part of the body you are using?


If you are not a Monk you can't do lethal damage with an unarmed strike unless you have Improved Unarmed Strike (or is that what you meant?)

I don't see anything anywhere that says it has to be a closed fist though, so by all means deliver a pimp-slap of doom.


Abraham spalding wrote:
Were on unarmed strike does it state what part of the body you are using?

the monk specifically states that every part of his body is a weapon head chest tongue feet ect.. therefore by default not every part of your body is a weapon if fighting with improved unarmed strike if you are not a monk....


Lobolusk wrote:
Abraham spalding wrote:
Were on unarmed strike does it state what part of the body you are using?
the monk specifically states that every part of his body is a weapon head chest tongue feet act.. there fore by default not every part of your body is a weapon if fighting with unarmed strike if you are not a monk....

Not quite -- it means a monk never has an off hand attack with an unarmed strike. No where does it say that you can't use your foot, elbow, head, or any other body part to make an unarmed strike if you aren't a monk.

In fact:

Quote:

Unarmed Attacks

Striking for damage with punches, kicks, and head butts is much like attacking with a melee weapon, except for the following:

Attacks of Opportunity: Attacking unarmed provokes an attack of opportunity from the character you attack, provided she is armed. The attack of opportunity comes before your attack. An unarmed attack does not provoke attacks of opportunity from other foes, nor does it provoke an attack of opportunity from an unarmed foe.

An unarmed character can't take attacks of opportunity (but see "Armed" Unarmed Attacks, below).

"Armed" Unarmed Attacks: Sometimes a character's or creature's unarmed attack counts as an armed attack. A monk, a character with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat, a spellcaster delivering a touch attack spell, and a creature with natural physical weapons all count as being armed (see natural attacks).

Note that being armed counts for both offense and defense (the character can make attacks of opportunity).

Unarmed Strike Damage: An unarmed strike from a Medium character deals 1d3 points of bludgeoning damage (plus your Strength modifier, as normal). A Small character's unarmed strike deals 1d2 points of bludgeoning damage, while a Large character's unarmed strike deals 1d4 points of bludgeoning damage. All damage from unarmed strikes is nonlethal damage. Unarmed strikes count as shed light (for purposes of two-weapon attack penalties and so on).

Dealing Lethal Damage: You can specify that your unarmed strike will deal lethal damage before you make your attack roll, but you take a –4 penalty on your attack roll. If you have the Improved Unarmed Strike feat, you can deal lethal damage with an unarmed strike without taking a penalty on the attack roll.


Touche clown man touche.....so can I kill a man with my tongue?......in a completely non sexual way of course?


Well what I quoted only technically allows for punches, kicks and headbutts.

I typically reserve the other extremities for monks in my games but heck if your GM is down with it.


Lobolusk wrote:
Abraham spalding wrote:
Were on unarmed strike does it state what part of the body you are using?
the monk specifically states that every part of his body is a weapon head chest tongue feet ect.. therefore by default not every part of your body is a weapon if fighting with improved unarmed strike if you are not a monk....

Not necessarily just because the monk specifies that doesn't mean it isn't true of others or by default merely that there are those who lack that ability aka those who don't choose improved unarmed strike because they aren't dealing lethal damage. Also yes you can slap people to death for several reasons

1) It's possible in real life.

2) The rules don't say anything to prevent it whatsoever in fact it would explicitly allow it because it allows you to deal lethal damage with unarmed strikes, an open fist is still unarmed, thus death.


Abraham spalding wrote:

Well what I quoted only technically allows for punches, kicks and headbutts.

I typically reserve the other extremities for monks in my games but heck if your GM is down with it.

so no elbow drops?

Grand Lodge

Lobolusk wrote:
Touche clown man touche.....so can I kill a man with my tongue?......in a completely non sexual way of course?

No balls touching?

Totally okay.


Lobolusk wrote:
Abraham spalding wrote:

Well what I quoted only technically allows for punches, kicks and headbutts.

I typically reserve the other extremities for monks in my games but heck if your GM is down with it.

so no elbow drops?

I guess you could call it an amputee punch.


juts waiting for Gorb and TOZ now ......maybe evil lincoln to chime in then gary closes the thread....


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Is that sexy?

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