Hey everyone,
We are running the AP sometime soon, and I was wondering if anyone had updated the traits from the players guide to pathfinder rules?
Thanks
Clam
This should take care of you.
Thanks, that's great for most of them. Anyone convert the AP specific traits?
Thanks, that's great for most of them. Anyone convert the AP specific traits?
Most of them were good enough for Pathfinder for me, but I did make these changes. I sent this out to my groups before they made up characters.
Finding Haleen:
You gain +1 HP and +1 Skill Point at first level, and you may choose an additional favored class. This additional favored class does not have to be chosen at first level, but may be selected when you take a level in the class.To clarify, it does NOT give you an additional HP and Skill at every level. Just first level.
Also:
Uwaga Highlander (Katapesh):
currently: You gain a +1 trait bonus on Hide and Move Silently checks. This trait bonus increases to +2 in hilly or rocky areas.
replace with: You gain a +1 trait bonus on Stealth checks, and Stealth is always a class skill for you. This trait bonus increases to +2 in hilly or rocky areas.Eyes and Ears of the City (Abadar):
currently:You gain a +1 trait bonus on Listen and Spot checks
replace with: You gain a +1 trait bonus on Perception checks, and Perception is always a class skill for you.Child of Zolurket (Dwarf ):
currently: You gain a +1 trait bonus to weapon damage against undead.
replace with: You gain a +1 trait bonus to damaging attacks against undead.Strength of the Sun (Sarenrae):
remove this.
Finding Haleen, I found too generous for a trait. It was essentially Toughness plus a skill point every level. A feat and a half, at least. Strength of the Sun I found to be too generous, as well. +1 to Cha checks... Does that include Cha-based skills? Not decisive in the text. Rather than argue about that, I just got rid of it. I felt there was no reason the +1 damage vs undead for Child of Zolurket should only be weapon damage - it was hardly game-breaking to allow it for spell damage and SLAs. I believe there was also precedent in the Carrion Crown traits for such a change. The others were just the obvious skill updates. I had a few qualms about some of the other traits, but they weren't too bad, and I didn't want to rewrite the whole list. Nobody in either of my LoF groups took them, anyway.
About Finding Haleen using PF-RPG rules, does the +1 hp or sp stack with a +1 hp or sp from favored class ?
In other words, can a 1st level Witch with Constitution 11 have 8 hp using this trait ? (6 from d6, +1 from favored class, and +1 from finding haleen ?)
Board ate my first reply.
The way I did it yes, but that's hardly official.
About Finding Haleen using PF-RPG rules, does the +1 hp or sp stack with a +1 hp or sp from favored class ?
In other words, can a 1st level Witch with Constitution 11 have 8 hp using this trait ? (6 from d6, +1 from favored class, and +1 from finding haleen ?)
Board ate my first reply.
The way I did it yes, but that's hardly official.
I made Finding Haleen give an extra favored class bonus per level of that favored class; so you could get the hp and the skill point, or one of them and a racial favored class bonus if one applied. I agree though, it is a powerful trait. That means someone is sure to take it, and I do think it's the most fun one in the AP! The first time I ran the AP, the pair of characters (brother and sister) who took the trait were CN rogue and cleric, both followers of Besmara.
Haleen was later killed by the Carrion King, but the party had her reincarnated by the druids of Nowruz Vale. There was a touching RP moment when, on the to Katapesh in The Jackals Price, she awkwardly apologized for stabbing the sorcerer in the back more than a year before.
About Finding Haleen using PF-RPG rules, does the +1 hp or sp stack with a +1 hp or sp from favored class ?
In other words, can a 1st level Witch with Constitution 11 have 8 hp using this trait ? (6 from d6, +1 from favored class, and +1 from finding haleen ?)
Board ate my first reply.
The way I did it yes, but that's hardly official.
Incidentally, with the addition of Eclectic as a feat from the APG, this version of the Finding Haleen trait is now better than a feat. I hadn't seen that feat by the time I started up this campaign.