Need recommendation for skinning a Jian (Tai-Chi style) sword.

[Whiskey Jack]

What established sword type, from Pathfinder RPG, would you use to represent a Jian sword?

[BigNorseWolf]

Whiskey Jack wrote:

What established sword type, from Pathfinder RPG, would you use to represent a Jian sword?

Probably a shortsword or better yet a rapier. it looks finessable, small light and fast, but not particularly heavy or damaging.

[TarkXT]

Rapier seems to be the closest fit out of the corebook.

[Ninjaxenomorph]

Maybe an Aldori Dueling sword? It can be Weapon Finessed, and acts like a longsword. Maybe you could mod it to be a Monk weapon?

[Magus Black]

I'd say that it counts as a rapier that does piercing or slashing damage (unlike rapiers the jian is made for both).

[Whiskey Jack]

I was thinking rapier myself... I think it would be a good fit. Thank you for the input! :-)

[Evershifter]

Temple Sword
Longsword stats, monks are proficient.
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/advancedGear.html#temple-sword

[Whiskey Jack]

Evershifter wrote:

Temple Sword

Longsword stats, monks are proficient.
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/advancedGear.html#temple-sword

This isn't a Jian sword... its more of a heavy Dao with the rings/bells along the backside. But thanks for the input- might help others who are looking for the proper Asian-flavored weapon. :-)

[Christopher Woldridge]

The single handed version would be a Long Sword. The larger two handed version I would make a Bastard Sword.

I would not consider a Rapier or Short Sword due to the fact both weapons are Piercing while the Jian is primarly a slashing weapon.

[Ruloc]

True to a point.
A Jian is much lighter than an traditional Longsword, though. Its purpose is to swiftly cut through light armored weak spots in the enemys armor rather than Slashing forcefully. Therefore I agree that a Rapier fits best.

[NeonParrot]

Whiskey Jack wrote:

What established sword type, from Pathfinder RPG, would you use to represent a Jian sword?

What is a Jian Sword?

Historically, the Wu Mountian monasteries used straight bladed swords, both piercing and slashing. Other name brand techniques used two mirrored slashing weapons.

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[Lyingbastard]

For the Jian I did in Luven Lightfinger's Gear & Treasure Shop, I just made it a longsword with the "monk" special. For the Shangshou Jian, the two-handed version, I just used a greatsword.

[Kirth Gersen]

Longsword.

[Whiskey Jack]

NeonParrot wrote:

Whiskey Jack wrote:

What established sword type, from Pathfinder RPG, would you use to represent a Jian sword?

What is a Jian Sword?

Historically, the Wu Mountian monasteries used straight bladed swords, both piercing and slashing. Other name brand techniques used two mirrored slashing weapons.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150563642746& ;hlp=false

This is a good explanation of what I am thinking of: Wikipedia entry for Jian

[Kirth Gersen]

Whiskey Jack wrote:

This is a good explanation of what I am thinking of: Wikipedia entry for Jian

As shown, that's essentially identical to the European arming sword, which is the model for the D&D "longsword." A straight, double-edged sword about 3 ft. long and weighing 2 to 2.5 lbs shouldn't have different combat stats just because of its country of origin! (Then again, I also don't think the "kama" should have different stats from the sickle).

[Kryzbyn]

I'm kind of shocked the Jian didn't end up in UC...

[Icyshadow]

I had this same issue in a 3.5e game once, and we decided (both DM and players) that the Jian can just be a Longsword.

[Ruloc]

Sorry but compaired to the typical longsword the Jian is an elegant (unfortunatelly therefore a bit fragile) Weapon designed for an swift and agile fighting style rather than brute force. It is lighter and shorter than an arming sword and fits the Rapier much better.

[Luminiere Solas]

use the wakazashi stats from ultimate combat. it's finessable, it can be used for both slashing and piercing. it has a rapier's enhanced crit range.

[Helaman]

Luminiere Solas wrote:

use the wakazashi stats from ultimate combat. it's finessable, it can be used for both slashing and piercing. it has a rapier's enhanced crit range.

Good skin that... either that or the Aldori sword which someone else called out as finesable.

[Ninjaxenomorph]

Helaman wrote:

Luminiere Solas wrote:

use the wakazashi stats from ultimate combat. it's finessable, it can be used for both slashing and piercing. it has a rapier's enhanced crit range.

Good skin that... either that or the Aldori sword which someone else called out as finesable.

Plus it has a feat line. Just make the damage S/P.