Spider Climb - transitioning from floor to wall

[Strife2002]

This may be tough to explain but I'll try to avoid any ASCII art detailing what I mean.

When you are affected by spider climb (or if you just naturally have a climb speed or can walk on walls some way), is moving from floor to wall 5 feet of movement? I think the answer is no, but in my head I'm seeing each "square" on the board as being just one side of a cube, and if you were to flatten these cubes out, moving from floor to wall (or one side of the cube to another side of the cube) would look like two squares next to each other.

[Lvl 12 Procrastinator]

Would love to hear what the rules aficionados say about this. I would rule No at my table, but what do I know?

[jreyst]

I too, were I GMing, would say that the first vertical square you enter does not count... because you are already occupying the cube that that square is one side of. However, that would not put you 5' off the ground, you'd effectively still be "on the ground" in terms of height. If/when you move UP one square you are exiting the square (or in this case, cube) that you are occupying. This is just my interpretation however.

[Strife2002]

jreyst wrote:

I too, were I GMing, would say that the first vertical square you enter does not count... because you are already occupying the cube that that square is one side of. However, that would not put you 5' off the ground, you'd effectively still be "on the ground" in terms of height. If/when you move UP one square you are exiting the square (or in this case, cube) that you are occupying. This is just my interpretation however.

You're probably right and that's what I assumed up until now but I just started to wonder.

[Lvl 12 Procrastinator]

jreyst wrote:

I too, were I GMing, would say that the first vertical square you enter does not count... because you are already occupying the cube that that square is one side of. However, that would not put you 5' off the ground, you'd effectively still be "on the ground" in terms of height. If/when you move UP one square you are exiting the square (or in this case, cube) that you are occupying. This is just my interpretation however.

Well put.

[Axl]

Because of the lack of facing in Pathfinder, I'm inclined to agree.

As an aside, I have done this in a game and fought while standing on a wall. My GM ruled a -2 attack penalty for me, which I think is fair.