Prismatic Spray vs. Smoked Goggles


Rules Questions


The whole point of smoked goggles is to give a bonus to saving throws vs. attacks that wouldn't work on blind folk. A prismatic spray "automatically blinds" creatures below 8HD for 2d4 rounds.

So you have 7HD and you're wearing Smoked Goggles and you get hit with a Prismatic Spray. Do you still have to take the 2d4 rounds?


joeyfixit wrote:

The whole point of smoked goggles is to give a bonus to saving throws vs. attacks that wouldn't work on blind folk. A prismatic spray "automatically blinds" creatures below 8HD for 2d4 rounds.

So you have 7HD and you're wearing Smoked Goggles and you get hit with a Prismatic Spray. Do you still have to take the 2d4 rounds?

All i know is whoever is 7HD and being Prismatic Sprayed has a lotta problems coming their way quickly due to the 6+ level difference ;)

Are you meaning Glarecutter Goggles?

If so it gives a bonus on saves, but does not allow saves when not normally given. So IF that was the item you requested, then RAW yes you still have to take the 2d4 rounds.

Edit: found item. The smoked goggles in the mundane equipment list also does not give a save when one is not normally allowed, so in this case as well by RAW still effected for 2d4 rounds.

YMMV


joeyfixit wrote:

The whole point of smoked goggles is to give a bonus to saving throws vs. attacks that wouldn't work on blind folk. A prismatic spray "automatically blinds" creatures below 8HD for 2d4 rounds.

So you have 7HD and you're wearing Smoked Goggles and you get hit with a Prismatic Spray. Do you still have to take the 2d4 rounds?

The Prismatic Spray spell works just fine on the blind... so smoked goggles would do absolutely nothing.


CyderGnome wrote:
joeyfixit wrote:

The whole point of smoked goggles is to give a bonus to saving throws vs. attacks that wouldn't work on blind folk. A prismatic spray "automatically blinds" creatures below 8HD for 2d4 rounds.

So you have 7HD and you're wearing Smoked Goggles and you get hit with a Prismatic Spray. Do you still have to take the 2d4 rounds?

The Prismatic Spray spell works just fine on the blind... so smoked goggles would do absolutely nothing.

And yet the 2d4 rounds of blindness would do nothing to the blind.

Just a thought. It's a high level spell with no save for the blindness, so I guess the magic just overwhelms a simple mundane item like smoked goggles. There's nothing in the spell that says this is a light-based effect, after all.

Silver Crusade

Smoked Goggles:
These spectacles have lenses made of smoked glass that help protect against creatures with gaze attacks. You are always treated as averting your gaze when dealing with gaze attacks, and you gain a +8 circumstance bonus on saving throws against visual-based attacks (any attack that a blind creature would be immune to). You have a –4 penalty on Perception checks while wearing the goggles, and all opponents are treated as having concealment (20% miss chance).

It strictly gives a bonus against gaze attacks, and gives a couple big penalties. That completely blind folk are inherently immune to gaze attacks ... has nothing to do with the smoked goggles. It gives no bonus to anything but gaze attacks. Not even Color Spray.


Nightskies wrote:
These spectacles have lenses made of smoked glass that help protect against creatures with gaze attacks. You are always treated as averting your gaze when dealing with gaze attacks, and you gain a +8 circumstance bonus on saving throws against visual-based attacks (any attack that a blind creature would be immune to). You have a –4 penalty on Perception checks while wearing the goggles, and all opponents are treated as having concealment (20% miss chance)

Think thats where the blind part came in.

Since sightless creatures are not affected by color spray you would recieve the +8 to your will save to negate.

However prismatic spray would still get you.

Silver Crusade

...What Talonhawke said is right. I had my own Smoked Goggles on, apparently!

Silver Crusade

"My eyes! The goggles, they do nothing!"

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