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Male Human (Varisian) Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim archetype) 6

Level 2 Changes:
HP: do I need to roll or can I take average +1? (I've assumed av +1 for the profile)
Skills: 1 ea in Diplomacy, Linguistics (Polyglot), Knowledge (History), Perform (Harrow)
BAB +1, Fort +1, Will +1


Level changes in my campaign:
Hit Points:
d6=4
d8=5
d10=6
d12=8

Toughness Feat Houserule:
3hp+1hp per level.

Feat, Spells, classes:
All Core and APG are fine, other sources-only by prior approval.


HP 39/30, AC- 11 (15 MA) T- 11 FF- 10 (14MA), CMD- 12, F +6, R +4, W +7, P +7, In +5

No change needed on Aedalis then.


Male Elven Wizard (Diviner, Foresight) 8 | HP 58 | AC:23 | FF:19 | T:16 | CMB:+4 | CMD:20 | Fort:+7 | Ref:+9 | Will:+9 | Init:+12 | Perc +8 | St:+4 | | St:+3 |

Tragershen's updates.

Wizard (Universalist) level 2.
New spells: magic missile, true strike.
BAB +1, Will +1.
Spells per day: add 1 0 level, 1 1st level.
Hit points: +5.
Languages: add Ignan.
Skills points +7, +1 to each: Linguistics, K: Arcana, K: Engineering, K: History, K: Spellcraft, K: Nature, Stealth.


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

Well, that was cathartic. I think that I have the party loot log up-to-date. I'll level up Anton tomorrow.


Male Human Magus 4(Bladebound)
Attacks:
Asilande +9(1d6+4/18-20x2), Dagger +6 (1d4+2/19-20x2), Longbw +7 (1d6/20x3)
Spellcasting:
CL 4 +6 melee, +6 ranged, Conc +9
Stats:
Init+3, Perc+2,AC19/14/15 HP 37,Frt+5,Will+4,Ref+4,Spd 30',CMB+5,CMD 19,Str 14, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 16, Wis 10, Cha 10

Tragershen Corbius already has True strike if you want a copy of it then you could choose a different spell. Corbius is more than willing to trade some spells out of his spellbook for some of yours. Say Color Spray and True Strike for MM and Feather Fall?


HP 39/30, AC- 11 (15 MA) T- 11 FF- 10 (14MA), CMD- 12, F +6, R +4, W +7, P +7, In +5

Remember the GP costs for scribing spells might not be meetable on ths island, as they are assumed to be in inks etc. that we don't necessarily have access to.

Once Aedalis actually gets comfortable enough to admit he has arcane power, he'll be up for trading spells too.


Male Human Magus 4(Bladebound)
Attacks:
Asilande +9(1d6+4/18-20x2), Dagger +6 (1d4+2/19-20x2), Longbw +7 (1d6/20x3)
Spellcasting:
CL 4 +6 melee, +6 ranged, Conc +9
Stats:
Init+3, Perc+2,AC19/14/15 HP 37,Frt+5,Will+4,Ref+4,Spd 30',CMB+5,CMD 19,Str 14, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 16, Wis 10, Cha 10

Corbius Updates

Magus Bladebound level 2
New Spells Shocking Grasp Magic Weapon
BAB +1 Will +1, Fort +1
Spells per day add 1 0 level and 1 1st level
HP +5
Skill Point +6, 1 to each of acrobatics, climb, swim, spellcraft, know planes, survival


Male Human Magus 4(Bladebound)
Attacks:
Asilande +9(1d6+4/18-20x2), Dagger +6 (1d4+2/19-20x2), Longbw +7 (1d6/20x3)
Spellcasting:
CL 4 +6 melee, +6 ranged, Conc +9
Stats:
Init+3, Perc+2,AC19/14/15 HP 37,Frt+5,Will+4,Ref+4,Spd 30',CMB+5,CMD 19,Str 14, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 16, Wis 10, Cha 10

LOL Thanks Aedalis I completely forgot about that :) It has obviously been too long since I played a spellcaster.:)


He was 2nd level before he ever met you guys so not to much metagaming :)

BTW if you want to spend the time to find materials to replicate the cost of copying spells, I am open to that idea, but right now with what you have it would be tough.


Male Elven Wizard (Diviner, Foresight) 8 | HP 58 | AC:23 | FF:19 | T:16 | CMB:+4 | CMD:20 | Fort:+7 | Ref:+9 | Will:+9 | Init:+12 | Perc +8 | St:+4 | | St:+3 |
Corbius Jank wrote:
Tragershen Corbius already has True strike if you want a copy of it then you could choose a different spell. Corbius is more than willing to trade some spells out of his spellbook for some of yours. Say Color Spray and True Strike for MM and Feather Fall?

If our illustrious DM would be good with it, I would trade out True Strike for Expeditious Retreat or Summon Monster I. And Tragershen wouldn't be opposed to sharing spells with Corbius (and when the time comes Aedalis). And it wouldn't necessarily have to be on a one-for-one basis as far as Tragershen is concerned. You know, greater good and saving each others' lives and all that.


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

Ranger (trapper) level 2
Combat style feat (two-handed weapon): Power Attack
BAB +1, Fort +1, Ref + 1
Hit points +6 +1 = +7
Skill ranks +6 +2 +1 = +9
-- Climb, Disable Device, Heal, Intimidate, Perception, Sleight of Hand, Stealth, Survival, Swim

ETA: After much dithering, I finally decided to go with the combat style would be the most in-character. They almost all died since he couldn't hit the lizard muskie hard enough, whereas his sling staff has been nearly useless in the close quarters of the jungle; and even if Clopper had survived, he wouldn't work with Anton's new tactic of stealthing ahead of the group. Naturally, this means that he'll be trading out his trident for a halberd ASAP.


By the way, I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you to DM Stephen for starting and running this game, and everyone else for their really active participation. I was involved in two other attempts at Serpent Skull PbP and both fell apart long before we had explored this much of the island. Indeed, our post count is well past both of those efforts combined. Thanks everyone!


Male Human 6th level Druid
Stats:
Init +1 Perception +12 AC 20 Tch 13 FF 19 HP 59 Fort+7(+8 vs disease) Ref+3 Will+8 Spd 20' CMB +11 CMD 23 Acro-2*Climb+6*Esc Art-2*Spellcraft+5 Stealth-2*Swim +6 ACP -2 (shield)

Level 2 changes:
Class taken: druid
BAB +1
Fort +1, Ref +0, Will +1
HP +5(class) +1(favored class) +1(Con) +1(Toughness) = +8 for 22 total*
*added +1 for house ruled Toughness feat
Gained: Woodland Stride, +1 0-level spell and +1 1st-level slot.
Skills (+6): Craft (Weapons) +1, Handle Animal +1, Heal +1, Knowledge (Nature) +1, Perception +1, Survival +1

HeroLab is indicating that I am to level up Wicewakan as well. If this is indeed how animal companions work here are the changes... :)

Wicewakan's changes:
BAB +1
Fort +0 Ref +0 Will +1
HP +4(add. HD) +2(Con) = +6 for 20 total*
*I am assuming no bonus to animal companions for the change to Toughness?
Skills (+1): Perception +1
Feat: Step Up

Dark Archive

No longer matters Drow Lich Epic level Wizard/Cleric of considerable ability
markofbane wrote:
By the way, I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you to DM Stephen for starting and running this game, and everyone else for their really active participation. I was involved in two other attempts at Serpent Skull PbP and both fell apart long before we had explored this much of the island. Indeed, our post count is well past both of those efforts combined. Thanks everyone!

+1 :)


+1 indeed! I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed having such a consistent game.

Now to shape expectations for future posting. I've been doing overtime the last four weeks, with no end in sight. I was on the verge of burnout before this holiday weekend -- and my understanding is that it's the last one until Independence Day. Furthermore, I won't even bother taking my laptop to work tomorrow, because I already know that I won't have enough time and energy to use it.

I'll still update at least once a day, but for the foreseeable future, longer RP posts will be mostly limited to the weekend. And that goes double for this week in particular, since I'll be making up for the day off with more work the other days.


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

You're so modest, Nim. I think that Wicewakan should've had at least 16 hp before the level-up, due to normal wolf plus Toughness. I'd also assume that Toughness works for animal companions as it does for you, so +3 more in addition to +4 and +2 for the 3rd HD and Con bonus, for a total of 25.

Quote:
Unlike normal animals of its kind, an animal companion's Hit Dice, abilities, skills, and feats advance as the druid advances in level.

The whole point is that they're like an extension of you, using rules similar to your own instead of as their mundane brethren. Accept it. Let Wicewakan be all that he can be. ;)


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim archetype) 6

DM Stephen - I'm not sure what I should have gear wise?

I'm happy with just holy symbol, harrow cards and a club... though a shortbow and some arrows would be nice :)


Male Human 6th level Druid
Stats:
Init +1 Perception +12 AC 20 Tch 13 FF 19 HP 59 Fort+7(+8 vs disease) Ref+3 Will+8 Spd 20' CMB +11 CMD 23 Acro-2*Climb+6*Esc Art-2*Spellcraft+5 Stealth-2*Swim +6 ACP -2 (shield)
Anton Green wrote:

You're so modest, Nim. I think that Wicewakan should've had at least 16 hp before the level-up, due to normal wolf plus Toughness. I'd also assume that Toughness works for animal companions as it does for you, so +3 more in addition to +4 and +2 for the 3rd HD and Con bonus, for a total of 25.

Quote:
Unlike normal animals of its kind, an animal companion's Hit Dice, abilities, skills, and feats advance as the druid advances in level.
The whole point is that they're like an extension of you, using rules similar to your own instead of as their mundane brethren. Accept it. Let Wicewakan be all that he can be. ;)

I will admit to completely relying on HeroLab to stat up Wicewakan. I find the written animal companion rules kind of confusing to be honest.

HeroLab has calculated Wice's HP as: 11(3d8:4,3,4) +6(Con) + 3(Toughness) = 20

If this is incorrect, I am all ears. :)
And of course, Stephen's opinion is the one that matters most. :)


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

Indeed. :) Although I probably shouldn't do math so late at night, I think I see the source of the 5-point difference: I was going 4,5,4 same as a normal wolf advanced 1 HD, then adding an extra +3 for the house-ruled Toughness. I've double-checked the CRB and Bestiary, and I still have no idea why Hero Lab would calculate an animal companion's hp like that, when it's 3d8.

ETA: Is there by any chance a setting to roll animal companions' hitpoints instead of taking the average? That's all I can think of.

Sovereign Court

It should indeed be 4,5,4 by default. Input it manually if needed.


Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
It should indeed be 4,5,4 by default. Input it manually if needed.

The wolf should NOT be weaker than it's bestiary cousin so I agree.

Sorry to do this but I am going to "tweak" the toughness feat one more time after more consideration.

+3 hit points at first, +1 additional hit point per level after first.
2nd: +4
3rd: +5 etc.


Mihai Soarta wrote:

DM Stephen - I'm not sure what I should have gear wise?

I'm happy with just holy symbol, harrow cards and a club... though a shortbow and some arrows would be nice :)

Sorry, you should have max wealth for 1st level. I know you are getting hosed out of some wealth, but I will make it up to you guys later in the treasure hauls...you will see.

I will warn you I am usually a little generous with custom items...and drop some of the other mundane magic or treasure.


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim archetype) 6

Gear Breakdown:
Max for Cleric is 240gp:
Harrow Deck - 100gp
Shortbow - 30gp
40 x Arrows - 2gp
Chain Shirt - 100gp
Dagger - 2gp
Club - free
Backpack - 2gp
Waterskin - 1gp
Loose change - 3gp

DM Stephen - sounds fine enough for me :)


Male Human 6th level Druid
Stats:
Init +1 Perception +12 AC 20 Tch 13 FF 19 HP 59 Fort+7(+8 vs disease) Ref+3 Will+8 Spd 20' CMB +11 CMD 23 Acro-2*Climb+6*Esc Art-2*Spellcraft+5 Stealth-2*Swim +6 ACP -2 (shield)

Ok. Adjusted HP totals for both Nim and Wicewakan:

Wic: 14(3d8:5,4,5) +6(Con) +5(Toughness: 3+1+1) = 25

Nim: 13(2d8:8,5) +2(Con) +2(FC) +4(Toughness: 3+1) = 21

Good?


Niɱ wrote:

Ok. Adjusted HP totals for both Nim and Wicewakan:

Wic: 14(3d8:5,4,5) +6(Con) +5(Toughness: 3+1+1) = 25

Nim: 13(2d8:8,5) +2(Con) +2(FC) +4(Toughness: 3+1) = 21

Good?

Yes, your meat shield is growing in power...


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

So did we spend a night in the jungle on the way back from the ruins, or did we make it back to the base camp the same day? I didn't quite follow.

I probably won't update Anton's gear until the weekend; it's tricky due to his containers' smaller capacity, and I'm pulling a second 13-hour day in a row at work tomorrow.

The party loot log should be up-to-date. Anything where the Owner is listed as "base camp" is fair game for whoever wants it.


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim archetype) 6

Just a quick FYI - I'll be out of town and away from the internet for about 48 hours from the time of this post. Disappearing into the suburbs for the weekend.

Please take any DMPC actions required to keep things moving along.

I'll put Mihai's first round action up in the main thread now so that you have Round 1 sorted.


No worries, we usually slow down over the weekend anyways.


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim archetype) 6

Back in town now :) - suburbs was fun. Disappeared into the jungle nearby KL.

Mihai will wait in thread for some sign from those higher in the initiative chain as to what awaits...


Niɱ wrote:

Ok. Adjusted HP totals for both Nim and Wicewakan:

Wic: 14(3d8:5,4,5) +6(Con) +5(Toughness: 3+1+1) = 25

Nim: 13(2d8:8,5) +2(Con) +2(FC) +4(Toughness: 3+1) = 21

Good?

Nim, I just noticed that you had your wolf's HP advancement reversed. Should be 4/5/4 no 5/4/5. 23 total HP's. Thanks! I think we have it straight now...


That keeps a 5 and a 4, and changes a 5 to a 4, so would be only l less (for 24 total) if I read it right.

Sovereign Court

4/5/4 is one less than 5/4/5 so just lower the HP by 1.


Male Human 6th level Druid
Stats:
Init +1 Perception +12 AC 20 Tch 13 FF 19 HP 59 Fort+7(+8 vs disease) Ref+3 Will+8 Spd 20' CMB +11 CMD 23 Acro-2*Climb+6*Esc Art-2*Spellcraft+5 Stealth-2*Swim +6 ACP -2 (shield)

Done.

*shakes fist at HeroLab* ;)


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

I just got Hero Lab myself, to make it easier to participate in PbPs for playtesting the RPG Superstar round 4 encounters. I'm finding that it's good -- very good -- but not perfect. Still glad I got it.


Male Human 6th level Druid
Stats:
Init +1 Perception +12 AC 20 Tch 13 FF 19 HP 59 Fort+7(+8 vs disease) Ref+3 Will+8 Spd 20' CMB +11 CMD 23 Acro-2*Climb+6*Esc Art-2*Spellcraft+5 Stealth-2*Swim +6 ACP -2 (shield)

Oh don`t get me wrong.. it is still a very useful bit of software and I am likewise very happy I got it. :)


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

I know exactly what this action all means for Anton's next level, barring the unexpected, so I'll be leaving foreshadowing where possible. Just saying so that you know to expect a certain amount of fluff.


Hey gang, just a heads up that I will be out of town from Friday -Sunday afternoon so probably little posting during that time. I will get a new map up tonight and look at what occurred overnight tonight and post up any reactions tomorrow morning before heading out for a couple of days of from everything! Thanks.


Male Human 6th level Druid
Stats:
Init +1 Perception +12 AC 20 Tch 13 FF 19 HP 59 Fort+7(+8 vs disease) Ref+3 Will+8 Spd 20' CMB +11 CMD 23 Acro-2*Climb+6*Esc Art-2*Spellcraft+5 Stealth-2*Swim +6 ACP -2 (shield)

Hope it is a fun trip! Have a good weekend!


Have a safe trip!


Oh thank goodness! (I'm participating in a PbP playtest of some RPG Superstar round 4 encounters.) Always remember: safety third.

Safety Third:
I'm pretty sure I remember Anton saying it at some point. It's life as we really live it: look good, have fun.. safety third. ;)


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3
Corbius Jank wrote:
@DMStephen I just have a rules question. Do you allow the use of an acrobatics check to stand from prone without incurring an attack of opportunity? There is nothing in RAW about that, just using an acrobatics check to move while prone without incurring attacks of opportunity at a penalty.

I have a question too. Is it possible to make a crawling withdraw, at double the normal crawling rate of 5 ft. per round? That would make it usable in difficult terrain. "Crawling incurs attacks of opportunity from any attackers who threaten you at any point of your crawl," so the acrobatics version would still have a purpose: the withdraw version would only prevent an AoO from an attacker threatening the first square you move out of, not any you move into.

Corbius might not even want to do that; I just want him to be able to make an informed decision. ;)


HP 39/30, AC- 11 (15 MA) T- 11 FF- 10 (14MA), CMD- 12, F +6, R +4, W +7, P +7, In +5

Theres a Rogue Talent for that I believe so suspect the answer is no.

As for getting up from prone, theres a feat to do it as a free action but even then it incurs AOO.


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

I can't find anything like that. There's a rogue talent (Rogue Crawl) and identical feat (Fast Crawl) for being able to crawl faster, but that's not really relevant; it would just make for a faster crawling withdraw, if such a thing is possible. Likewise, the feat for standing up as a free action would just make for a faster usage of Acrobatics to stand up without provoking an AoO; it wouldn't really affect the ruling of whether that's possible in the first place.


No acrobatics check to stand from Prone without an AOO. I think there used to be something in 3.5 and the DC was 40...

I am back so we can pick back up. Looking at the round actions now.


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3
Aedalis Omathi wrote:

Aedalis continues to focus on Nim's future, hoping to aid him in scoring a decisive blow by sifting through the weave of time.

"Cackle" and move to F10.

Ugh. I know that you re-fluffed it, but how about re-naming it too. Maybe "Chant"? I could see Aedalis chanting.


HP 39/30, AC- 11 (15 MA) T- 11 FF- 10 (14MA), CMD- 12, F +6, R +4, W +7, P +7, In +5

He doesn't chant either... But i'm only using its OOC name so people don't miss it.


Male Halfling (Molthuni) Barbarian 1 Ranger (Trapper) 3

I can't speak for anyone else; but for me, I'd rather you just call it "extend hexes", if you have to call it something ooc recognizable. "Extend hexes (sifting through the flow of time and fate)" if you want to remind us of how it works for you. It's hard to explain, but even in scare quotes, "cackle" is so incongruous for the character that it puts my shoulders up.


HP 39/30, AC- 11 (15 MA) T- 11 FF- 10 (14MA), CMD- 12, F +6, R +4, W +7, P +7, In +5

I think i'll call it "Focus" or something once i've thought more about the way I want to fluff it. I'm still looking for Aedalis' 'voice' at the moment and trying to develop the way he thinks.

I always intended to rename Cackle. Was just getting people used to the mechanics of it before I started renaming things.


Male Human (Varisian) Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim archetype) 6

On the augury chance - was my bad. Was adding the skill bonus on to the spell listed value of 70%; not the feat listed value of 60%. So the chance for a meaningful reply is 71% only.

I'll roll for it in future as part of the action and feel free to leave all the flavor delivery to me.

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