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I've been a LONG time gamer and have some of the First Edition Gods that were created for Greyhawk. These are lesser gods. I would like to add to Pathfinder.
My questions are
1. has anyone done this ?? If so my search fu is weak could you help me out.
2. Is there a format for creating said gods.
The gods Im looking at are
1. The Earth Dragon cult
2. Kelanen
3. Murlynd
They are from Greyhawk Slavers TSR 11621
Also Im posting here cause Mr. Reynolds & Mr. Pramas are the main authors.
Thanks
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The gods Im looking at are
1. The Earth Dragon cult
2. Kelanen
3. Murlynd
Wiki lists Murlynd as having had the Good, Knowledge and Law domains in the RPGA conversion. I would add Artifice to that list (since he's the god of magical technology). For Favored Weapon, a firearm (handgun), if such a thing is available in the setting, but if not, the hand crossbow.
Kelanen had Travel and War. I'd be inclined to add another Domain or two, such as Artifice (to represent the crafting of swords) or Knowledge (as Kelanen seems to honor skill and training over brute force). For Favored Weapon, some sort of sword, probably a bastard sword or longsword, IIRC.
For the Earth Dragon Cult, probably Earth and Water, since the Earth Dragon was considered the god of earth, water and hidden treasure, and possibly some combination of Knowledge and Scalykind, and possibly Evil (the writeup I was looking at doesn't mention the Earth Dragon as specifically evil, although his followers almost universally were, from what I dimly recall...). With the heavy association with mining, I'd use the Pick or Heavy Pick as a Favored Weapon.
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As I recall Murlynd was a quasi-diety, not a true god so he did not grant spells.
Either that or a 'hero-diety' like Kelanen, but they were from an edition where demon lords and archdevils weren't true gods and couldn't grant cleric spells either, so it's probably at least as valid to upgrade Murlynd or Kelanen as it was to upgrade Jubilex and Mephistopheles.
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As I recall Murlynd was a quasi-diety, not a true god so he did not grant spells.Either that or a 'hero-diety' like Kelanen
I bet Erik Mona could answer that question, but if I was the DM I definitely would not elevate Murlynd past 'hero-diety' status.
Also Set, since 1st Ed, the archdevils and demon lords we given the status of lesser gods (see Deities & Demigods, and later Legends & Lore, and even later Manual of the Planes) and were thus technically given the ability to grant spells (of up to 6th level).
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Wow this got better response than I thought, thanks everyone.
Actually, Slavers was a re-version of A1-A4 from first edition. Many of the "lesser" gods were put into articles in the Dungeon & Dragons mags that were in house at TSR. All three of the gods in question were Demi-Gods or Divine Heros. Over the years as the line blured on who and what could grant spells to followers.
My post was to confirm what I had guessed already but its nice to get other points of view.
My players actually want to go back to this adventure. So I need to get all the bad guy info back into my brain. I origionally ran this from the point if view of an evil party who was working for the Slavers. It became a large "who done it mystery" The players were required to be evil but had to be Lawful. No neutral or chaotic. I wanted infighting but not outright backstabing each other. It was very fun because the party was always two steps behind the real heros ( those dirty Ba anyhow).
Earth Dragon, Wyrm of the Hills, Earth Lord, Serpent of Stone
Lawful Evil Demi-god
Domains: Earth, Evil, Law, Protection, Weather
Favored Weapon: heavy pick or light pick
Kelanen, the Prince of Swords.
Neutral Hero-deity
Domains: Travel, War
Favored Weapon: any martial sword
Murlynd
Lawful Good Hero-deity
Domains: Good, Knowledge, Law, Nobiity
Favored Weapon: longsword
These are from the Living Greyhawk Campaign Official Deities PDF. Still available online for free with EVERY Greyhawk deity. All three can grant spell to worshippers.
Master Arminas
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Earth Dragon, Wyrm of the Hills, Earth Lord, Serpent of Stone
Lawful Evil Demi-god
Domains: Earth, Evil, Law, Protection, Weather
Favored Weapon: heavy pick or light pickKelanen, the Prince of Swords.
Neutral Hero-deity
Domains: Travel, War
Favored Weapon: any martial swordMurlynd
Lawful Good Hero-deity
Domains: Good, Knowledge, Law, Nobiity
Favored Weapon: longswordThese are from the Living Greyhawk Campaign Official Deities PDF. Still available online for free with EVERY Greyhawk deity. All three can grant spell to worshippers.
Master Arminas
Yeah, but even then if converting to pathfinder I would, and did change Murlynds favored weapon to pistol.
This might help a bit
Well bless you thoughty little heart! Link bookmarked, document saved.
Edit: document not saved, read only
I bet Erik Mona could answer that question
Erik Mona? He probably doesn't even know what a "grey hawk" is. ;)