Treasure generator correct?

[nogoodscallywag]

I tested this very neat treasure generator located at:

http://pathfinder.zonegamma.com/

The site is very nice and neat; however, I'm not sure it makes too much sense.

In the Pathfinder random encounter tables I had a 10th level fighter generated to fight 10 Orcs. If I put this information in the treasure generator (Avg DC, APL 10, Med pace, Standard quantity, standard magic, 10% residual gp, and 50% coins/jewels), it comes up with:

1) Divine Scroll, Inflict critical wounds {4th/7th} : 700gp [+]
2) Masterwork Hide Armor : 165gp [+]
3) Dust of disappearance : 3500gp [+]
4) Lock, Good 80 gp [120%, Fine Quality] : 96gp [+]
5) Potion of Remove paralysis {2nd/3rd} : 300gp [+]
6) Climber's kit 80 gp [Standard Quality] : 80gp [+]
7) Lock, Good 80 gp [72.5%, Cheap Quality] : 58gp [+]
8) Sai 1 gp [Standard Quality] : 1gp [+]
9) Signet ring 5 gp [Standard Quality] : 5gp [+]

Treasure Value
Treasure(4905gp)
+ Gems & Jewels(273gp)
+ Coins(272gp)
= 5450gp

This seems like an awful lot for 10 Orcs to have...is this me or is this normal? i com from 2ed D&D, where creatures were listed with treasure types and rolls were made on chart. The Orc listing in the Bestiary only says "other treasure."

What say you?

[Paul Zagieboylo]

So with the settings you gave, you asked the tool to generate appropriate treasure for a CR10 encounter (an "average" difficulty encounter for a group of 4 10th-level characters). Your 10 orcs are not even close to CR10. I'm not sure exactly how many standard falchion-wielding 1st-level orc warriors (at CR 1/3 each) it would take to add up to CR10, but it's a few dozen at least. Your 10 orcs would be about CR5 (although you actually get 12 orcs for CR5), so you can ask the tool about a CR5 encounter ("average" for APL5, or "challenging" for APL4) and you get 1550g in total treasure. Which is a more reasonable reward for slaughtering all the warriors of a mid-size orc tribe. A CR10 encounter is, for example, 3 hill giants, or a dire lion and his 10 ordinary lionesses. MUCH more dangerous than 10 orcs.

Also, for your CR10 encounter, the tool came up with 5450g worth of loot. Split 4 ways, this is about 1300g per character, which as expected is not that much money for a 10th level fighter who's looking at trying to afford 8k for +2 weapons, or 10k for a belt of physical might +2 or a dozen other things that each cost in the 8-12k range. Considering that an APL10 party might expect to fight 3 or 4 CR10 encounters in a single day, they'll probably be able to afford half the stuff they want by the time they reach 11th level, as expected.

Still, this is a pretty neat tool, thanks for the link!

[nogoodscallywag]

Hmmm I used a random generator to calculate the orcs, too.

[StabbittyDoom]

nogoodscallywag wrote:

Hmmm I used a random generator to calculate the orcs, too.

If the orcs had more than a single NPC class level then they may have qualified for a higher CR.