Shapeshifting as a bloat mage?

[johnlocke90]

Hello, my current character is a bloat mage and I want to know what happens to my blood poll when I shape shift. I can understand keeping the blood pool(and respective detriments) when I turn into a creature with blood, but what happens when I turn into say an elemental? Do I lose access to my blood pool and do the speed detriments go away?

[johnlocke90]

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[jjaamm]

Polymorph: A polymorph spell transforms your physical body to take on the shape of another creature. While these spells make you appear to be the creature, granting you a +20 bonus on Disguise skill checks, they do not grant you all of the abilities and powers of the creature. Each polymorph spell allows you to assume the form of a creature of a specific type, granting you a number of bonuses to your ability scores and a bonus to your natural armor. In addition, each polymorph spell can grant you a number of other benefits, including movement types, resistances, and senses. If the form you choose grants these benefits, or a greater ability of the same type, you gain the listed benefit. If the form grants a lesser ability of the same type, you gain the lesser ability instead. Your base speed changes to match that of the form you assume. If the form grants a swim or burrow speed, you maintain the ability to breathe if you are swimming or burrowing. The DC for any of these abilities equals your DC for the polymorph spell used to change you into that form

While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form

I would say that yes you lose the pool in any shape that dosent have blood. As for moveing, the spell says yes you get new move speed

[Quandary]

i would say when you are polymorphed, you lose all aspects of bloat/blood pool EVEN IF the form you choose naturally has blood... based on ¨ you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form ¨. it doesn´t say you keep such abilities if the form you choose is similar to your normal form in X manner that is relevant to the ability.

if you view bloat/blood pool as NOT being dependent on form, then it should carry over NO MATTER WHAT form you polymorph into. who is to say that you don´t have blood in elemental form? elemental form 3 and 4 provide immunity to bleed, but 1 and 2 don´t, and even immunity to bleed doesn´t mean you don´t have blood to use with blood pool. bloat mage doesn´t really have any pre-req re: creature type or having quality of blood.

if it is somehow not dependent on form, but dependent on having blood available and elemental form is considered to not have blood, that really needs s specific FAQ to convey.