David Hopper
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The question is why is storm giant version more expensive to the cloud giant version. All it says is does is change your size as if you had cast Giant Form II. It does not say it gives of the extra abilities other than the actual size bonuses. They both give the same size under the same spell effect (the greater version II, not I). So WHY is one more expensive than the other?
Giant-Hide Armor
Aura strong transmutation; CL 15th
Slot armor; Price 39,165 gp (ogre), 46,665 gp (hill giant), 59,165 gp (troll), 54,165 gp (stone, fire, or frost giant), 69,165 gp (cloud giant), 76,665 gp (storm giant); Weight 25 lbs.
DESCRIPTION
This drooping, many-folded suit of +3 hide armor is made from the tanned skin of an actual giant. Once per day on command, the wearer can grow to match the size of the appropriate giant, as if using giant form I (ogre, troll, hill giant, stone giant, fire giant, or frost giant) or giant form II (cloud giant or storm giant). This transformation lasts up to 15 minutes, and ends when the wearer commands. Most good folk consider wearing the skins of intelligent creatures to be abhorrent. Giants gain a +2 morale bonus on attack and damage rolls against the wearer, or +4 if the wearer's armor is made from the same kind of giant as the attacker.
CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS
Craft Magic Arms and Armor, giant form I (ogre, troll, hill giant, stone giant, fire giant, or frost giant) or giant form II (cloud giant or storm giant); Cost 19,660 gp (ogre), 23,415 gp (hill giant), 29,665 gp (troll), 27,165 gp (stone, fire, or frost giant), 34,665 gp (cloud giant), 38,415 gp (storm giant)
| Jeraa |
Turning into a storm giant with Giant Form II also gives a swim speed, and immunity to electricity, because storm giants have those abilities. Cloud giants don't.
This spell functions as giant form I except that it also allows you to assume the form of any Huge creature of the giant type. You gain the following abilities: a +8 size bonus to Strength, a –2 penalty to Dexterity, a +6 size bonus to Constitution, a +6 natural armor bonus, low-light vision, and a +10 foot enhancement bonus to your speed. If the form you assume has any of the following abilities, you gain the listed ability: swim 60 feet, darkvision 60 feet, rend (2d8 damage), regeneration 5, rock catching, and rock throwing (range 120 feet, 2d10 damage). If the creature has immunity or resistance to one element, you gain that immunity or resistance. If the creature has vulnerability to an element, you gain that vulnerability.
| Jeraa |
that's true, but the item just says get the size bonuses. are we supposed to get the entire spell bonus?
Yes. It says "as Giant Form I (or Giant Form II)". Those spells give special abilities depending on the form taken. Otherwise, the items are more expensive then they need to be, and there is no reason to have the cost differences between the cloud and storm giant items, nor would there be a point in having different costs for the ogre, troll, hill giant, stone giant, fire giant, and frost giant ones either, as they all use Giant Form I.
Everything about the items costs and the fact they specified the different giant types shows that you get the appropriate special abilities as well.