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Are you having a problem with understanding the wording, or just feeling too lazy to look it up? It's in each of the class descriptions and I'm feeling a bit lazy at the moment also. Try going to the individual class pages in the PRD and searching for the words "sleep" or "rest".
Arcane spellcasters require 8 hours of rest (not necessarily sleep - sitting calmly for 8 hours works too) to prepare their spells. Divine spellcasters don't require any rest, but can only get their spells back as one certain point of the day. Bards, wizards, and sorcerers are arcane casters. Clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers are divine casters.
As for the classes from splat books, the Magus and Witch both say 8 hours of rest are required (and both are arcane casters). Though some of the others don't specify as far as I can tell. In that case, I would just default to the norm - arcane casters require rest, divine do not:
Alchemist - ? - ?
Summoner - Arcane - 8 hours rest
Inquisitor - Divine - no rest
Oracle - Divine - no rest
Witch - Arcane - 8 hours rest
At least, that is how I would handle it. The alchemist is a special case, as they aren't actually a caster, and their formula list contains both arcane and divine spells. I don't have a clue about them. (Though I am tempted to place them as divine, both because of their hit dice size and armor proficiency, and because that would make it an even split among the caster classes - 7 arcane and 7 divine.)
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Are you having a problem with understanding the wording, or just feeling too lazy to look it up? It's in each of the class descriptions and I'm feeling a bit lazy at the moment also. Try going to the individual class pages in the PRD and searching for the words "sleep" or "rest".
No I did look it up and several of the listings were unclear to me, I never post rules questions here without first trying to figure it out for myself. So not not lazy, though one wonders if you were feeling too lazy to answer why you responded in the first place.
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Arcane spellcasters require 8 hours of rest (not necessarily sleep - sitting calmly for 8 hours works too) to prepare their spells. Divine spellcasters don't require any rest, but can only get their spells back as one certain point of the day. Bards, wizards, and sorcerers are arcane casters. Clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers are divine casters.
As for the classes from splat books, the Magus and Witch both say 8 hours of rest are required (and both are arcane casters). Though some of the others don't specify as far as I can tell. In that case, I would just default to the norm - arcane casters require rest, divine do not:
Alchemist - ? - ?
Summoner - Arcane - 8 hours rest
Inquisitor - Divine - no rest
Oracle - Divine - no rest
Witch - Arcane - 8 hours restAt least, that is how I would handle it. The alchemist is a special case, as they aren't actually a caster, and their formula list contains both arcane and divine spells. I don't have a clue about them. (Though I am tempted to place them as divine, both because of their hit dice size and armor proficiency, and because that would make it an even split among the caster classes - 7 arcane and 7 divine.)
Thanks bunches, that was kind of my thinking as well though the books are ambiguous on several of them. Most likely the approach you suggest is what I will do as well. Again thank you for the helpful reply!
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Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16
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Are you having a problem with understanding the wording, or just feeling too lazy to look it up? It's in each of the class descriptions and I'm feeling a bit lazy at the moment also. Try going to the individual class pages in the PRD and searching for the words "sleep" or "rest".No I did look it up and several of the listings were unclear to me, I never post rules questions here without first trying to figure it out for myself. So not not lazy, though one wonders if you were feeling too lazy to answer why you responded in the first place.
I like helping people with the rules, and if you have a problem understanding something I'm more than willing to help out.
I am not going to chase through 8 different classes and read up on the exact details on how much rest they need because you aren't willing to do it yourself.
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Are you having a problem with understanding the wording, or just feeling too lazy to look it up? It's in each of the class descriptions and I'm feeling a bit lazy at the moment also. Try going to the individual class pages in the PRD and searching for the words "sleep" or "rest".So not not lazy, though one wonders if you were feeling too lazy to answer why you responded in the first place.I like helping people with the rules, and if you have a problem understanding something I'm more than willing to help out.
I am not going to chase through 8 different classes and read up on the exact details on how much rest they need because you aren't willing to do it yourself.
Except, I did do it myself as I stated. In fact I spent a good 20 minutes flipping back and forth through books before I came upstairs and posted the question. Perhaps I missed finding it in the other entries, but I did look and I found where it plainly said under the Wizard class, but couldn't find it for the others.
Your original reply was unhelpful and implied I was just too lazy to look it up, which I objected to, since it patently was not the case.
Even Jeraa who did provide much help (Thanks again!), stated:
Though some of the others don't specify as far as I can tell.
Which is why I asked in the first place.
Alchemists are neither arcane nor divine, and, in fact, are not casters.
They don't need rest and they don't have to prepare elixirs at certain times. Their "pool" of available extracts per day refresh at the same time as the Monk's ki pool, or the Paladin's smite, or any other "per day" ability.
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Except, I did do it myself as I stated. In fact I spent a good 20 minutes flipping back and forth through books before I came upstairs and posted the question. Perhaps I missed finding it in the other entries, but I did look and I found where it plainly said under the Wizard class, but couldn't find it for the others.
Your original reply was unhelpful and implied I was just too lazy to look it up, which I objected to, since it patently was not the case.
Sorry my first reply was a little off, it just sounded like you wanted someone to chase around the rules after some trivial stuff. I gave you the essential answer in my post. but here is the detailed breakdown.
It's specified for all the core book classes under the magic chapter.
For the classes that came after the core book:
If the class write up says rest is required in the class write up, it is.
For example, the witch: "She must choose and prepare her spells ahead of time by getting 8 hours of sleep and spending 1 hour communing with her familiar."
If it doesn't, then it isn't required.
For example, the summoner or the alchemist don't mention sleep or rest so it's not required.
As far as I can tell, the requirements for rest are broken down based on class, not arcane versus divine.
Keep in mind that divine spell casters do not regain spell slots that they have used within the last 8 hours when they spend their hour of meditation / communing.
Core Rulebook>Rules>Magic>Divine Spells>Preparing Divine Spells>Recent Casting Limit