I know undead are immune to disease; does that also include spellblights? Are there some spellblights that will work against undead, but not others?
Haven't been able to find information on this elsewhere, and I'd really appreciate clarification.
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Any clarification?
I'm going to take an amateur attempt here and say Yes, they would still be afflicted by spellblights ( Granted they have spell-like abilities, or spells )
This is because, as far as I know, Spellblights are Not diseases; they are Curses. And nothing that I see suggests the undead cannot be cursed.
You're right, they are curses. Don't know how I missed that. Awesome. It looks like some specific spellblights are mind-affecting or are considered diseases, so they won't work, but otherwise they will. This makes me happy.
Edit: what about spellblights that allow Fort saves to avoid feeling the effect of the blight? They might be able to get the spellblight, if getting it does not require a Fort save (like using Bestow Curse, which is Will-negates), but will the effects of said blight be useless because of the Fort save?
Finally, if giving someone a spellblight via the Bestow Curse spell (or the major version), do you get to pick the blight, or is it determined randomly? 'Cause if it's the latter, that will put a damper on my undead-blighting plans.
You're right, they are curses. Don't know how I missed that. Awesome. It looks like some specific spellblights are mind-affecting or are considered diseases, so they won't work, but otherwise they will. This makes me happy.
Edit: what about spellblights that allow Fort saves to avoid feeling the effect of the blight? They might be able to get the spellblight, if getting it does not require a Fort save (like using Bestow Curse, which is Will-negates), but will the effects of said blight be useless because of the Fort save?
Finally, if giving someone a spellblight via the Bestow Curse spell (or the major version), do you get to pick the blight, or is it determined randomly? 'Cause if it's the latter, that will put a damper on my undead-blighting plans.
^_^ I love where this is going, so I'll do what I can to help...
There are many ways a spellcaster can become afflicted with a spellblight. These conditions can be gained by way of a bestow curse or major curse spell, as well as spontaneously with a number of unusual circumstances, many of which are detailed below.
Curses and Other Spells: All spellblights can be inflicted upon spellcasters with a bestow curse or major curse spell. Bestow curse can bestow any minor spellblight, while a major curse is required to afflict a spellcaster with a major spellblight. Other spells may inflict a specific spellblight or may allow the caster to select any spellblight as part of the spell. A successful Saving Throw against the spell prevents the spellblight from taking hold.
Nothing in the wording seems to imply that Bestowing a spellblight for a curse is in any way random; Both the spells and the text provided under 'Spellblight' seem to imply Selection, And there is no mention of rolling for a Random one, as per other sections (EX: Optional Ways to Acquire Spellblights via Crafting Magic Items )
...So, I'd say it's Safe to assume that when you're Bestowing a curse, you're selecting your poison =P
Figuratively. It's still a Curse, not a poison <_<
Anyhoot.
Undead use their Charisma score in place of their Constitution score for determining things like Fortitude saves...
Traits: An undead creature possesses the following traits (unless otherwise noted in a creature's entry)....
No Constitution score. Undead use their Charisma score in place of their Constitution score when calculating hit points, Fortitude saves, and any special ability that relies on Constitution(such as when calculating a breath weapon’s DC).
Good luck with your plans! =D
PS: I'm thinking of afflicting Ebon Eyes on myself. Looks like fun ^_^
I'm not interested in spellblighting myself. I'm playing a witch in an undead-heavy campaign, and I'm trying to increase my options.
The bit about the fort saves I was looking at was this:
Immunity to any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects or is harmless).
As spellblights definitely aren't harmless, and I doubt they work on objects, I'm unsure if some of them would also work against undead. You could give them the spellblight by way of a Bestow Curse spell, but since a failed Fort save is required to feel the effects, would this immunity apply? 'Cause that really limits the number of spellblights that are effective against undead.
Magic negation spellblights for everyone, and my apologies to the party wizard.
I'm not interested in spellblighting myself. I'm playing a witch in an undead-heavy campaign, and I'm trying to increase my options.
The bit about the fort saves I was looking at was this:
Immunity to any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects or is harmless).As spellblights definitely aren't harmless, and I doubt they work on objects, I'm unsure if some of them would also work against undead. You could give them the spellblight by way of a Bestow Curse spell, but since a failed Fort save is required to feel the effects, would this immunity apply? 'Cause that really limits the number of spellblights that are effective against undead.
Magic negation spellblights for everyone, and my apologies to the party wizard.
...You're absolutely right... And I apologize in that I did not see such a conflict sooner.
...No. It seems no; Many apologies...
Bestow Curse will Always only target a Creature; The very definition of a Curse, in itself, suggests that it only targets Creatures; And although undead and some Constructs are both creatures and Spellcasters, both have the same immunity to Anything that explicitly also works on Objects....
Black and white. Set in stone.
The best you could possibly argue with a GM is that, by definition "Spellblights are rare and unusual magical conditions that uniquely affect spellcasters", but even an Intelligent Item with the ability to cast spells is considered a construct... And otherwise, a Spellcaster will most certainly be disputed to at least be a Creature.
....Sorry mate -_-
Was really lookin' forward to seeing you Spellblight some zombies.