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I searched all over these forums for an answer to this and couldn't find one. Sorry if this has already been covered somewhere, but why are the prices listed in Ultimate Combat for specific vehicles not the same as listed in the Core Rulebook.
Example, a Galley in the Core Rulebook is 30,000 gp, while in the Ultimate Combat its only 10,000 gp. This is a fairly large discrepancy. I have players in my game who were thinking of getting a ship to carry all of there stuff and we argued about whether it should cost them only 10,000 gp or 30,000 gp as it always has been.
Is there a reason for this, such as the prices listed in UC are an updated more accurate representation of vehicle pricing. If this is the case, then why were they not updated in the Core book errata. Or is this simply an oversight. Which I'm guessing it is.
PS: I do not mean to come across as condescending or mean, just curious. I think I'm probably going to rule its a typo in the UC and should follow the Core Rulebook prices.
UC has the new vehicular rules, while the Core Rulebook was more general. UC has a pretty big update on vehicles, so it is generally the definitive guide on vehicles.
Since this is a more specific instance and it's a newer book, I would use UC.
Maybe the one in the core rulebook comes armed.
Well, as of now, I think I'm just going to have to rule that its a typo in the UC and side with prices in the Core book...
Thanks anyways.
You should check the online SRD or PRD it tends to have the most Upton FAQ data.
EDIT: 10,000 GP is the only price listed for the galley in the SRD.
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Well, as of now, I think I'm just going to have to rule that its a typo in the UC and side with prices in the Core book...
Thanks anyways.
You should check the online SRD or PRD it tends to have the most Upton FAQ data.
EDIT: 10,000 GP is the only price listed for the galley in the SRD.
no it isn't (not trying to be cynical)
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/equipment.html
Well, as of now, I think I'm just going to have to rule that its a typo in the UC and side with prices in the Core book...
Thanks anyways.
You should check the online SRD or PRD it tends to have the most Upton FAQ data.
EDIT: 10,000 GP is the only price listed for the galley in the SRD.
no it isn't (not trying to be cynical)
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/equipment.html
No problems however here it is in the SRD, I an my GM had a recent disagreement however it was over the price of a spade. He insisted it was 2 coppers and I insisted it was 2 gold. I was using he PRD, he was using the SRD. The SRD Tends to be more up to date with the pricing and such, as the PRD just puts the data up for the world to see without cross referencing. You want find any of the pathfinder world setting information in the PRD all of that is in the SRD as well.
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Well, as of now, I think I'm just going to have to rule that its a typo in the UC and side with prices in the Core book...
Thanks anyways.
You should check the online SRD or PRD it tends to have the most Upton FAQ data.
EDIT: 10,000 GP is the only price listed for the galley in the SRD.
no it isn't (not trying to be cynical)
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/equipment.html
No problems however here it is in the SRD, I an my GM had a recent disagreement however it was over the price of a spade. He insisted it was 2 coppers and I insisted it was 2 gold. I was using he PRD, he was using the SRD. The SRD Tends to be more up to date with the pricing and such, as the PRD just puts the data up for the world to see without cross referencing. You want find any of the pathfinder world setting information in the PRD all of that is in the SRD as well.
ah...i didn't realize there was a difference. i don't know now. i think i'm still going to follow the PRD just cause its what Paizo themselves put out, while the other is a 3rd party from them. It IS very possible that paizo simply made a mistake in the Ultimate Combat and listed it as 10,000 gp. The SRD would have no way of knowing that until errata comes out. I wouldn't even make a deal of it if it wasn't for the fact that its a difference of 20,000 gp. That's the difference between players being able to afford a galley and not.
ah...i didn't realize there was a difference. i don't know now. i think i'm still going to follow the PRD just cause its what Paizo themselves put out, while the other is a 3rd party from them. It IS very possible that paizo simply made a mistake in the Ultimate Combat and listed it as 10,000 gp. The SRD would have no way of knowing that until errata comes out. I wouldn't even make a deal of it if it wasn't for the fact that its a difference of 20,000 gp. That's the difference between players being able to afford a galley and not.Well, as of now, I think I'm just going to have to rule that its a typo in the UC and side with prices in the Core book...
Thanks anyways.
You should check the online SRD or PRD it tends to have the most Upton FAQ data.
EDIT: 10,000 GP is the only price listed for the galley in the SRD.
no it isn't (not trying to be cynical)
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/equipment.html
No problems however here it is in the SRD, I an my GM had a recent disagreement however it was over the price of a spade. He insisted it was 2 coppers and I insisted it was 2 gold. I was using he PRD, he was using the SRD. The SRD Tends to be more up to date with the pricing and such, as the PRD just puts the data up for the world to see without cross referencing. You want find any of the pathfinder world setting information in the PRD all of that is in the SRD as well.
Well, look at how much a warship costs: 25,000 GP. Compare the attributes to a warship: It carries both many more soldiers and a larger crew. It's also a good bit faster. Based on that, why would it cost 15,000 GP less than a warship? It makes absolutely no sense. Based on comparison with another ship, I feel you are probably right about 30,000 GP being the RAI price and UC making a mistake.
I searched all over these forums for an answer to this and couldn't find one. Sorry if this has already been covered somewhere, but why are the prices listed in Ultimate Combat for specific vehicles not the same as listed in the Core Rulebook.
Example, a Galley in the Core Rulebook is 30,000 gp, while in the Ultimate Combat its only 10,000 gp. This is a fairly large discrepancy. I have players in my game who were thinking of getting a ship to carry all of there stuff and we argued about whether it should cost them only 10,000 gp or 30,000 gp as it always has been.
Is there a reason for this, such as the prices listed in UC are an updated more accurate representation of vehicle pricing. If this is the case, then why were they not updated in the Core book errata. Or is this simply an oversight. Which I'm guessing it is.
PS: I do not mean to come across as condescending or mean, just curious. I think I'm probably going to rule its a typo in the UC and should follow the Core Rulebook prices.
The prices in Ultimate Combat are in error. The prices in the Core Rulebook are correct.
That said, vehicle prices in your campaign can fluctuate with market demand and the needs of your campaign. Taking a pretty big gp treasure hint just because you want to have sailing vessels in your campaign can be a real pain for players and can really limit their potency. If I were running a game, and thought it would be fun to run adventures where the PCs owned and operated a ship, I would probably find a way for the characters to get that ship for cheap or even for free. They could rent a ship, have a shipped loaned to them (for various reasons), or find a down-on-his luck sailor who needs gold more than he needs his sailing ship (gambling or trade debts maybe?). Ships and the authority to use it from a sovereign or state can be a pretty nifty story reward.
Most of the time, vehicle prices should serve your campaign's story rather than as a tax on the game economy which typically is balanced toward a character's itemization.
I know that last part is pretty meta, but it is also often true.
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I searched all over these forums for an answer to this and couldn't find one. Sorry if this has already been covered somewhere, but why are the prices listed in Ultimate Combat for specific vehicles not the same as listed in the Core Rulebook.
Example, a Galley in the Core Rulebook is 30,000 gp, while in the Ultimate Combat its only 10,000 gp. This is a fairly large discrepancy. I have players in my game who were thinking of getting a ship to carry all of there stuff and we argued about whether it should cost them only 10,000 gp or 30,000 gp as it always has been.
Is there a reason for this, such as the prices listed in UC are an updated more accurate representation of vehicle pricing. If this is the case, then why were they not updated in the Core book errata. Or is this simply an oversight. Which I'm guessing it is.
PS: I do not mean to come across as condescending or mean, just curious. I think I'm probably going to rule its a typo in the UC and should follow the Core Rulebook prices.
The prices in Ultimate Combat are in error. The prices in the Core Rulebook are correct.
That said, vehicle prices in your campaign can fluctuate with market demand and the needs of your campaign. Taking a pretty big gp treasure hint just because you want to have sailing vessels in your campaign can be a real pain for players and can really limit their potency. If I were running a game, and thought it would be fun to run adventures where the PCs owned and operated a ship, I would probably find a way for the characters to get that ship for cheap or even for free. They could rent a ship, have a shipped loaned to them (for various reasons), or find a down-on-his luck sailor who needs gold more than he needs his sailing ship (gambling or trade debts maybe?). Ships and the authority to use it from a sovereign or state can be a pretty nifty story reward.
Most of the time, vehicle prices should serve your campaign's story rather than as a tax on the game economy which...
thank you