delabarre
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Do the Ethereal and Astral planes "touch"?
I'm not yet seeing anything to suggest they don't, in pathfinder lore. I wanted to ask the question just to verify, though.
The base rules of the RPG don't specify the precise cosmology of the game universe.
In the Pathfinder campaign setting, my understanding is that they do not -- that is, they only "touch" in the same places that the Astral plane "touches" any world with an Ethereal plane. Remember that in the PFCS, the Astral plane is essentially deep space.
| Bane Wraith |
Bane Wraith wrote:Do the Ethereal and Astral planes "touch"?
I'm not yet seeing anything to suggest they don't, in pathfinder lore. I wanted to ask the question just to verify, though.
The base rules of the RPG don't specify the precise cosmology of the game universe.
In the Pathfinder campaign setting, my understanding is that they do not -- that is, they only "touch" in the same places that the Astral plane "touches" any world with an Ethereal plane. Remember that in the PFCS, the Astral plane is essentially deep space.
Heh. See, I thought of it that way too. But, then again, the Astral plane is also specifically described in PF as being the plane that any Gate or Portal goes through to reach another plane of existence: In the same way the Ethereal is a buffer between Shadow and Material, the Astral is basically a buffer between All.
I find that rather strange, when it comes to the Inner planes, since it's basically explained they're like a sandwiched-up ball with the Ethereal being between the Shadow and Material.
I find it extremely important to know if Pathfinder has any direct rules concerning the interaction between these two planes, for the purpose of creating demiplanes and astral projection, though (Among other specifics)... And, sadly, I'm not all that savy myself in the occult to come up with houserules to suggest to a GM =P
It rings an interesting concept though; Being capable of Hiding from the outer planes, by concealing oneself in the land of Dreams and mortal spirits.
What say you?
delabarre
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Heh. See, I thought of it that way too. But, then again, the Astral plane is also specifically described in PF as being the plane that any Gate or Portal goes through to reach another plane of existence: In the same way the Ethereal is a buffer between Shadow and Material, the Astral is basically a buffer between All.
I find that rather strange, when it comes to the Inner planes, since it's basically explained they're like a sandwiched-up ball with the Ethereal being between the Shadow and Material.
I find it extremely important to know if Pathfinder has any direct rules concerning the interaction between these two planes, for the purpose of creating demiplanes and astral projection, though (Among other specifics)... And, sadly, I'm not all that savy myself in the occult to come up with houserules to suggest to a GM =P
It rings an interesting concept though; Being capable of Hiding from the outer planes, by concealing oneself in the land of Dreams and mortal spirits.
What say you?
"Teleport effects do not use the Astral plane any more." -- JJ
Likewise, shadow and ethereal spells do not function away from the Inner Sphere (because Outer Sphere planes simply do not have shadow or ethereal planes).
| Bane Wraith |
"Teleport effects do not use the Astral plane any more." -- JJ
Likewise, shadow and ethereal spells do not function away from the Inner Sphere (because Outer Sphere planes simply do not have shadow or ethereal planes).
Unfortunately, I don't know much about the community here to understand if or how that's a reputable claim; I just take a gander at the SRD, like the little excerpt found Here and read the exact opposite.
Is that particular source outright wrong then?
...Anyways... If no such portal or gate spell uses the Astral anymore, and instead is simply an act of creating a brief touch between planes at a set dimension, then that's pretty final. The only thing that needs to be clarified are the "Placement" of the planes, and *Precisely* what touches what.
What was discussed there seems to imply that there's a specific plane that acts as the Barrier between the Inner and Outer circle, no?
Thank you for your research skills, and hopefully more insight can be found...