Quick question before a game; can I transmute pebbles with the Magic Stone spell, then use Abundant Ammunition spell to make additional Magic Stone projectiles whenever I use them?
You transmute as many as three pebbles, which can be no larger than sling bullets, so that they strike with great force when thrown or slung. If hurled, they have a range increment of 20 feet. If slung, treat them as sling bullets (range increment 50 feet). The spell gives them a +1 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls. The user of the stones makes a normal ranged attack. Each stone that hits deals 1d6+1 points of damage (including the spell's enhancement bonus), or 2d6+2 points against undead.
When cast on a container such as a quiver or a pouch that contains nonmagical ammunition or shuriken (including masterwork ammunition or shuriken), at the start of each round this spell replaces any ammunition taken from the container the round before. The ammunition taken from the container the round before vanishes. If, after casting this spell, you cast a spell that enhances projectiles, such as align weapon or greater magic weapon, on the same container, all projectiles this spell conjures are affected by that spell.
Quick question before a game; can I transmute pebbles with the Magic Stone spell, then use Abundant Ammunition spell to make additional Magic Stone projectiles whenever I use them?
You transmute as many as three pebbles, which can be no larger than sling bullets, so that they strike with great force when thrown or slung. If hurled, they have a range increment of 20 feet. If slung, treat them as sling bullets (range increment 50 feet). The spell gives them a +1 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls. The user of the stones makes a normal ranged attack. Each stone that hits deals 1d6+1 points of damage (including the spell's enhancement bonus), or 2d6+2 points against undead.When cast on a container such as a quiver or a pouch that contains nonmagical ammunition or shuriken (including masterwork ammunition or shuriken), at the start of each round this spell replaces any ammunition taken from the container the round before. The ammunition taken from the container the round before vanishes. If, after casting this spell, you cast a spell that enhances projectiles, such as align weapon or greater magic weapon, on the same container, all projectiles this spell conjures are affected by that spell.
See in bold: Abundant Ammunition only works on nonmagical ammo, which the Magic Stones are not.
Just so that this arguement can be made and hopefully ended the spell only states the quiver or what not has to contain nonmagical ammo it replaces any ammo take from the container the round before.
RAW would say that i can put 5 +5 arrows into my quiver with 15 normal ones and it replaces whichever arrow i fire.
Now RAI is probably that it is designed to only work with non-magical ammo.
Huge Thread Rez here, but what if the opposite order were performed?
Abundant Ammunition on a bag of 3 normal sling bullets. Then Magic Stone on the bag. Per the rule of Magic Stone, "up to 3". But per the AA spell, "all projectiles this spell conjures are affected".
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Huge Thread Rez here, but what if the opposite order were performed?
Abundant Ammunition on a bag of 3 normal sling bullets. Then Magic Stone on the bag. Per the rule of Magic Stone, "up to 3". But per the AA spell, "all projectiles this spell conjures are affected".
???
Per the rules for AA:
If, after casting this spell, you cast a spell that enhances projectiles, such as align weapon or greater magic weapon, on the same container, all projectiles this spell conjures are affected by that spell.
So why do you even need to ask?