Svirfneblin Spell-Like-Abilities DC


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http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/svirfneblin.html

The standard Svirfneblin ranger has 3 SLAs. The DC for blindness/deafness for him is 12. Usually the DC of SLAs is calculated: 10 + CHA-mod + spell level of equivalent spell.
In the universal monster rules it's stated that by default you take the sorcerer/wizard spell level which would be 2 for blindness/deafness.

When I calculate the 10 -1 (CHA-mod) + 2 (level for blindness deafness) I'm at DC 11, not 12. Are the svirfneblin special in that regard somehow or is this just a mistake?


Montis wrote:

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/svirfneblin.html

The standard Svirfneblin ranger has 3 SLAs. The DC for blindness/deafness for him is 12. Usually the DC of SLAs is calculated: 10 + CHA-mod + spell level of equivalent spell.
In the universal monster rules it's stated that by default you take the sorcerer/wizard spell level which would be 2 for blindness/deafness.

When I calculate the 10 -1 (CHA-mod) + 2 (level for blindness deafness) I'm at DC 11, not 12. Are the svirfneblin special in that regard somehow or is this just a mistake?

I am thinking since they are rangers, the DC is calculated on their Wis (10) instead of Cha. Might not make as much sense, but it is my theory.


Montis wrote:

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/svirfneblin.html

The standard Svirfneblin ranger has 3 SLAs. The DC for blindness/deafness for him is 12. Usually the DC of SLAs is calculated: 10 + CHA-mod + spell level of equivalent spell.
In the universal monster rules it's stated that by default you take the sorcerer/wizard spell level which would be 2 for blindness/deafness.

When I calculate the 10 -1 (CHA-mod) + 2 (level for blindness deafness) I'm at DC 11, not 12. Are the svirfneblin special in that regard somehow or is this just a mistake?

Perhaps it is a misapplication of the +1 DC from Svirfneblin magic?

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Bascaria wrote:
Montis wrote:

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/svirfneblin.html

The standard Svirfneblin ranger has 3 SLAs. The DC for blindness/deafness for him is 12. Usually the DC of SLAs is calculated: 10 + CHA-mod + spell level of equivalent spell.
In the universal monster rules it's stated that by default you take the sorcerer/wizard spell level which would be 2 for blindness/deafness.

When I calculate the 10 -1 (CHA-mod) + 2 (level for blindness deafness) I'm at DC 11, not 12. Are the svirfneblin special in that regard somehow or is this just a mistake?

Perhaps it is a misapplication of the +1 DC from Svirfneblin magic?

Why would you consider that a misapplication?


Sir Morgan of Devil's Perch wrote:
Bascaria wrote:
Montis wrote:

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/svirfneblin.html

The standard Svirfneblin ranger has 3 SLAs. The DC for blindness/deafness for him is 12. Usually the DC of SLAs is calculated: 10 + CHA-mod + spell level of equivalent spell.
In the universal monster rules it's stated that by default you take the sorcerer/wizard spell level which would be 2 for blindness/deafness.

When I calculate the 10 -1 (CHA-mod) + 2 (level for blindness deafness) I'm at DC 11, not 12. Are the svirfneblin special in that regard somehow or is this just a mistake?

Perhaps it is a misapplication of the +1 DC from Svirfneblin magic?
Why would you consider that a misapplication?

Because it adds to illusion spells, and blind/deaf is necromancy.

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Bascaria wrote:
Sir Morgan of Devil's Perch wrote:


Why would you consider that a misapplication?
Because it adds to illusion spells, and blind/deaf is necromancy.

Gotcha, I was just thinking about Spell-Like vs. Spell Casting.

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