Light Steps

[Cayle Caedann]

I've a doubt about Light Steps feat. Specifically I don't get clearly what they wanted to say with natural environment.
By RAW I should say that you can comprehend everything exept Houses, Dungeons and other handworks... BUT...
The difficult terrain depends by obstacles, objects and particular conditions that made the terrain "difficult". If some dirt and minute rocks and stones make an otherwise plain outdoor road a "Difficult terrain", the same debris will make a dungeon floor "difficult".
Besides we're talking about a 3 feats progression. How do you think?
Who ca explain clearly ho this feats progression works?

[Starglim]

I think you could count any terrain (as defined for rangers) except urban and underground, plus natural caves. This already restricts it severely for many adventures.

A building, street, sewer or constructed/excavated dungeon with dirt, water or plants on the floor is not a natural environment. Apart from anything else, this is probably the most common cause of difficult terrain in such places.

Can you explain what you mean about "3 feats progression"? Acrobatic Steps and Nimble Moves don't have this restriction. Light Step has it because it's an elf racial feat that just happens to build on the previous two feats.

[Cayle Caedann]

Starglim wrote:

I think you could count any terrain (as defined for rangers) except urban and underground, plus natural caves. This already restricts it severely for many adventures.

A building, street, sewer or constructed/excavated dungeon with dirt, water or plants on the floor is not a natural environment. Apart from anything else, this is probably the most common cause of difficult terrain in such places.

Can you explain what you mean about "3 feats progression"? Acrobatic Steps and Nimble Moves don't have this restriction. Light Step has it because it's an elf racial feat that just happens to build on the previous two feats.

Well I wrote 3 feats progression because you must invest 3 feats in order to take the latter one.

As you said the first two talents don't have that restriction so I thought that the last one was slightly lamed for that restriction. One of my players wanted to take it and he's a half-elf. I'm pretty sure that "elven blood" allows you to take the talent so I let him use it, but he posed the question and I had a doubt. I'm sorry for my english, I'm Italian.

[Starglim]

Yes, a half-elf would qualify.

He still gets the benefit of Acrobatic Steps and Nimble Moves in an artificial environment, so unless he's a barbarian, he only loses 5 feet of his 30-foot move. He might want to run or to charge more than 20 feet.