(Possibly) newbish rules question

[Akritas]

What exactly are the errata RAW/RAI rules for PFS? Basically, I have an archivist bard whose second level power Lore Master* was miscopied** and I don't see a correction in the official errata. What are the rules here and how should I apply this power?

*http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo---bard- archetypes/archivist

**http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinde rRPG/rules/aPGArchivistBardQuestion

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Akritas wrote:

What exactly are the errata RAW/RAI rules for PFS? Basically, I have an archivist bard whose second level power Lore Master* was miscopied** and I don't see a correction in the official errata. What are the rules here and how should I apply this power?

*http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo---bard- archetypes/archivist

**http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinde rRPG/rules/aPGArchivistBardQuestion

Not sure exactly what the question is, as both links don't seem to work for me.

However, the 2nd level Archivist power "Lore Master":

]Lore Master (Ex): At 2nd level, an archivist may take 20 on Knowledge checks once per day, plus once per six levels beyond 2nd. This ability replaces versatile performance.

This works as it written. It removes the normal bard's versatile performance ability normally gained at 2nd level.

The 5th level Archivist power "Jack of All Trades":

[url=http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/coreClasses/bard.html wrote:

PRD]Jack of All Trades (Ex): At 5th level, an archivist can use any skill, even if the skill normally requires him to be trained. At 11th level, he considers all skills to be class skills, and at 17th level he can take 10 on any skill check, even if it is not normally allowed. This ability replaces lore master.

This again, works as written. It removes the normal bard's lore master ability that is normally gained at 5th level and replaces it with the Jack of All Trades ability. It does not affect the Archivist's lore master ability gained previously.

They probably should have named the abilities slightly different from the base bard's abilities (especially lore master since it works slightly different) to avoid some confusion. However, they just swap around the bard's abilities to be gained at different levels.

Hope this helps.

Also flagging this, as it is more of a general rules question than PFS.

[Akritas]

Apparently I phrased my badly since while your answers are good, they aren't answering the question I tried to ask. My apologies. Take 2.

If I understand correctly, the Lore Master power gotten by the archivist at level 2 is supposed to be the same as the one received by the bard in level 5. It looks like this board doesn't automatically turn a URL into a link like the forums I am used to, so I'll do it manually this time. :P However, it seems this was transcribed in error, not letting the archivist take 10 on all knowledge rolls. Normally this would be a matter for the GM, but in PFS there is no single GM to appeal to, so I'm trying to figure out what the society rules are, thus my posting in this subforum.

Hopefully I made more sense this time?

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Akritas wrote:

Apparently I phrased my badly since while your answers are good, they aren't answering the question I tried to ask. My apologies. Take 2.

If I understand correctly, the Lore Master power gotten by the archivist at level 2 is supposed to be the same as the one received by the bard in level 5. It looks like this board doesn't automatically turn a URL into a link like the forums I am used to, so I'll do it manually this time. :P However, it seems this was transcribed in error, not letting the archivist take 10 on all knowledge rolls. Normally this would be a matter for the GM, but in PFS there is no single GM to appeal to, so I'm trying to figure out what the society rules are, thus my posting in this subforum.

Hopefully I made more sense this time?

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Ah, OK, that does clarify things.

Well, unfortunately, until there's errata or a FAQ update, the ability for the Archivist does work differently than the normal bard's ability. You wouldn't gain the take 10 part of the normal ability. This is part of why I think they should have just changed the ability's name for the Archivist or did a direct copy/paste of the ability. It does make it less appealing, as my bard uses the take 10 regularly (when I actually get to play him anyways).

[Akritas]

Thanks. This there a way to mark this for possible inclusion in the next errata? The (an) author of the book straight out said it was supposed to be the same as the Bard's 5th level power, so there can't be much doubt about the intent and it seems a shame to have all PFS archivists (I know I am not the only one) penalized for a typo.

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Akritas wrote:

Thanks. This there a way to mark this for possible inclusion in the next errata? The (an) author of the book straight out said it was supposed to be the same as the Bard's 5th level power, so there can't be much doubt about the intent and it seems a shame to have all PFS archivists (I know I am not the only one) penalized for a typo.

Using the "FAQ" flag on a post about it. If this thread gets moved to the general rules forum, I'll hit FAQ too. In the PFS forum, the FAQ is a queue for changing current PFS rules, but not really for changing/clarifying the core game rules.

[Akritas]

Done and thank you.