Sympathy: how does it work?


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I'm referring of course to the spell. I've seen a few discussions about it, but I'm hoping to get some definitive answers, possibly even a FAQ. Reading the spell using RAW, it goes something like this:

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Target one location (up to a 10-ft. cube/level) or one object

I can target a location or object. Seems clear.

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Range close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)

The location or object can be at close range. Still clear.

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You cause an object or location to emanate magical vibrations that attract either a specific kind of intelligent creature or creatures of a particular alignment, as defined by you.

And there goes all our clarity. How far do these vibrations go? Do they need line of effect? Do the creatures need line of sight to the object/location? In other words, if you conceal the object in a bag, will it not work until you bring it out in the open?

The rest of the description seems fairly cut and dry.

I've seen two vastly different interpretations of the spell. One is that the true range of the spell is irrelevant (or touch) because you are preparing it ahead of time and that the range listed is actually for the effect of the spell. The other is that sympathy has some variation of infinite range. If you drop a human sympathy into the middle of a field with hundreds of humans around, they will all converge on that position. Both of these don't feel right.

Whatever the true case is, this spell block needs revising for it to be clear.


Almost 24 hours and no bites? I know sympathy/antipathy are avoided by most groups, but I think part of that stems from its ambiguity. Enchanters everywhere would appreciate some clarity.


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FAQ'd because I don't think anyone really knows the answer to this one.


Thanks Ravingdork and others that FAQ'd. I just checked and even back in 2E days antipathy/sympathy was unclear (it was one spell then). Thinking back to my gaming days back then, I think it may have been used once in antipathy form as a sort of pseudo-trap. Even today, Antipathy is the easier to interpret effect.


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drumlord wrote:
Thanks Ravingdork and others that FAQ'd. I just checked and even back in 2E days antipathy/sympathy was unclear (it was one spell then). Thinking back to my gaming days back then, I think it may have been used once in antipathy form as a sort of pseudo-trap. Even today, Antipathy is the easier to interpret effect.

I've always treated Sympathy as creating a suggestion to touch/possess an object or a suggestion and charm combo now when a person is the target of the spell.

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