This is my first Druid Character so please go easy on me LOL.
Welcome to the circle. Have a goodberry and some mistletoe. Here's your hide armor and your scimitar.
I have a few questions, My first question is what bonus's do I get for the actual choice of the animal I take the form of... Do I get their Natural Armor bonus on top of the Natrual Armor Bonus from the Beast Shape I, or is it just the flat +2.
Just the flat +2. This is to keep people from raiding the monster manual for uber forms.
Choice of animal comes down to what abilities you need, flight scent, burrowing, etc.
Meaning taking the form of a Black Bear (+4 Natural Armor) is the same as taking the shape of a Cheetah (+1 Natural Armor) giving me only the base +2 from the Beast Shape I? or is the +2 a bonus on top of the actual animal form you take?
Just the flat +2
What Attacks do I get? So if I take say a Deinonychus do I get the 2 tallons, bite and foreclaw attack?
Yup. Nasty form that one. Probably your best combat form forever, especially if you can't fit a large creature in.
Do I get racial bonus's to skills that the form gets? Take the Deinonychus again with its Racial Modifiers +8 Acrobatics, +8 Perception, +8 Stealth
Nope. You have not lived your entire life as a dino, so you don't get the bonus.
Most of the useful information for beast shape is in the transmutation section under magic.
In addition to these benefits, you gain any of the natural attacks of the base creature, including proficiency in those attacks. These attacks are based on your base attack bonus, modified by your Strength or Dexterity as appropriate, and use your Strength modifier for determining damage bonuses.
If a polymorph spell causes you to change size, apply the size modifiers appropriately, changing your armor class, attack bonus, Combat Maneuver Bonus, and Stealth skill modifiers. Your ability scores are not modified by this change unless noted by the spell.
Unless otherwise noted, polymorph spells cannot be used to change into specific individuals. Although many of the fine details can be controlled, your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type. Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.
When you cast a polymorph spell that changes you into a creature of the animal, dragon, elemental, magical beast, plant, or vermin type, all of your gear melds into your body. Items that provide constant bonuses and do not need to be activated continue to function while melded in this way (with the exception of armor and shield bonuses, which cease to function). Items that require activation cannot be used while you maintain that form. While in such a form, you cannot cast any spells that require material components (unless you have the Eschew Materials or Natural Spell feat), and can only cast spells with somatic or verbal components if the form you choose has the capability to make such movements or speak, such as a dragon. Other polymorph spells might be subject to this restriction as well, if they change you into a form that is unlike your original form (subject to GM discretion). If your new form does not cause your equipment to meld into your form, the equipment resizes to match your new size.
While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form. You also lose any class features that depend upon form, but those that allow you to add features (such as sorcerers that can grow claws) still function. While most of these should be obvious, the GM is the final arbiter of what abilities depend on form and are lost when a new form is assumed. Your new form might restore a number of these abilities if they are possessed by the new form.
You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.
If a polymorph spell is cast on a creature that is smaller than Small or larger than Medium, first adjust its ability scores to one of these two sizes using the following table before applying the bonuses granted by the polymorph spell.
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::nods:: you get what the spell outlines,
the form of the animal just defines how many attacks you get, and what base damage die they deal, and whether you get +Str, or +1.5Str or .5Str with the attack. all other variables use your Bab, and your modified strength.
the form you take is largely flavor.
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::nods:: you get what the spell outlines,
the form of the animal just defines how many attacks you get, and what base damage die they deal, and whether you get +Str, or +1.5Str or .5Str with the attack. all other variables use your Bab, and your modified strength.the form you take is largely flavor.
WOW that was fast thanks guys! So you do get the base movement of the animal correct? The only thing limited is the special movement like swim, fly and such right?
Ill use the Deinonychus as an example with its 60 speed, or am I stuck going a base 30 speed for being a human in a Dino costume?
You get the base (land) movement of the new form from the general polymorph rules.
Other forms of movement depend on the spell. As you mentioned, beast shape I gives you climb, fly or swim speeds limited to 30 feet if the creature possesses those movement forms. (The spell doesn't say, but I think it follows, that if the creature has a climb, fly or swim speed different from 30 feet, you can use that movement form but you get the worse ability from either the spell or the base creature).
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No...you get NADA... nothing. You get your own base movement or whatever is available by the intersection of the grab bag from the spell that can be mapped onto the form.WOW that was fast thanks guys! So you do get the base movement of the animal correct?::nods:: you get what the spell outlines,
the form of the animal just defines how many attacks you get, and what base damage die they deal, and whether you get +Str, or +1.5Str or .5Str with the attack. all other variables use your Bab, and your modified strength.the form you take is largely flavor.
p. 211-212, "Your base speed changes to match that of the form you assume". Note that the other benefits in this paragraph are conditional ("If the form grants.." where "form" seems here to mean the specific spell effect) but base speed has no qualification. None of the beast shape spells explicitly grant an increase to base land speed, which I would certainly expect to see from beast shape II onwards if the spell needed to give it.
WOW that was fast thanks guys!
We have no life :)
So you do get the base movement of the animal correct? The only thing limited is the special movement like swim, fly and such right?
You get the lower of the forms or the spells limits. If the spell says a burrow speed of 30 and the creature has a burrow speed of 10 you get a burrow speed of 10. If the Spell says you get a 30 and the creature says you get a 60 then you get a 30.
Ill use the Deinonychus as an example with its 60 speed, or am I stuck going a base 30 speed for being a human in a Dino costume?
60 feet, which is flat out awesome, because you can take a move action every round to look about and still keep up with your party.
Your base speed changes to match that of the form you assume<--- its hidden away in the spoiler above, from the transmutation section, not in the spell.
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So you do get the base movement of the animal correct? The only thing limited is the special movement like swim, fly and such right?You get the lower of the forms or the spells limits. If the spell says a burrow speed of 30 and the creature has a burrow speed of 10 you get a burrow speed of 10. If the Spell says you get a 30 and the creature says you get a 60 then you get a 30.
Now that I look at it, this is spelled out in the "Magic" chapter, just before the sentence about base speed.