Validate my Synthesist Summoner Character Sheet


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I decided to post in Rules Questions instead of Advice, assuming that the main reason of this post is to VALIDATE the character rule-wise.

I know there's a post right under but gone to like 40pages. I read most of them, and made my own opinion on it, thanks to that initiative.

Now I built a Level5 Synthesist Summoner, and I'd like to know what you think about it. I think it makes a pretty strong character, not OPed though, and could be in some ways compared to a fighter of this level.

Note that this isnt a min-max character, and only the thrill to play some kind of Angel (can see the point from evolutions choices) that would be viable for gameplay. Why gnome... for fun, I always loved this race. I know half-elf might be more adapted, but I don't mind for now. All I want to know it's if this character seems legit for you.

Summoner Stats Block:

Ewalim, Gnome Summoner Level 5
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Strenght: 5 (roll 7, -2racial, -1old age)
Dexterity: 14 (roll 15, -1 old age)
Constitution: 17 (roll 16, -1 old age, +2racial)
Intelligence: 16 (roll 15, +1 old age)
Wisdom: 10 (roll 9, +1 old age)
Charisma: 20 (roll 17, +1 old age, +2racial)

HitPoints: 50
Hit dices: 8 + 7 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 30 + 5x Favored class = 35 + 3x5 Constitution = 50.

Initiative: +2 (Dexterity)
Speed: 20ft

AC: 17 (4 chainshirt, 2dext, 1size)
Touch: 13 (1size, 2dext)
FFoot: 15 (4 chainshirt, 1size)

SAVES
Fortitude: 4 (1base + 3con)
Reflexes: 3 (1base + 2dex)
Will: 4 (4base + 0wis)

CMB: -1 (3BAB, -3str, -1size)
CMD: 11 (3BAB, -3str, +2dex, -1size)

Skills & feats doesn't have much importance for that matters.

Fused Summoner Stats Block:

Ewalim, Gnome Fused Summoner Level 5
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Strenght: 18 (16biped + 2level-progression)
Dexterity: 14 (12biped + 2level-progression)
Constitution: 14 (13biped + 1ability score bonus)
Intelligence: 16 (summoner)
Wisdom: 10 (summoner)
Charisma: 20 (summoner)

HitPoints: 36 (50 potential from summoner)
Hit dices: 10 + 7 + 5 + 6 = 28 + 4x2Con = 36

Initiative: +2 (Dexterity)
Speed: 20ft or 30ft???

AC: 20 (4armor bonus, 2shield fused bonus, 2dex, 2biped natural)
Touch: 12 (2dext)
FFoot: 18 (4armor bonus, 2shield fused bonus, 2biped natural)

SAVES
Fortitude: 5 (1base + 2con +2fused)
Reflexes: 5 (1base + 2dex +2fused)
Will: 6 (4base + 0wis +2fused)

CMB: 8 (4BAB, 4str)
CMD: 20 (4BAB, 4str, +2dex)

EVOLUTIONS (8pts):
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Weapon Training - Martial (4pts)
Fly (2pts)
Wing Buffet (1pt)
Skilled - Diplomacy (1pt)

Attacks:
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Greatsword +8 (2d6+6)
Attack bonus: 4str, 4BAB. Damage: 4strx1.5 2handed
WingsX2 +3 (1d4+2)
Attack bonus: 4str, 4BAB, -5secondary. Damage: 4str/2 secondary

Special: Darkvision 60ft, Evasion.

Skills&Feats = Summoner, only adding +8 diplomacy and using new Physical modifiers

Only one question is left to me:
My eidolon is biped, and by so gain a speed of 30ft.
It is stated nowhere that you get the speed of your eidolon, though as you gain all his evolutions, Limbs(legs) are in. Would it then allow me to move at 30ft, or stay to my basic 20ft speed?
Same for flying speed, 20, or 30?

Only thing I view is that it gives a pretty strong character (86hit points to kill at level5 is way above average, with good-average rolls), though you have a lot of way to get the summoner in his normal form (dismisal to name one)

So here you go, I'd like your opinion, and if you see anything that could be out-rule, say it. If something isn't clear, tell it and I'll answer as soon as possible.


little bump may be? I'd like to have at least 1-2 comments :p


Base Speed:
Gnome gains +10ft from bipeds limbs(legs) evolution so with gnome base of 20ft it gives a total new base speed of 30ft movement in fused form. So the flight evolution also gives you 30ft fly (with good maneuverability).
(btw a half-elf synthesist would have 40ft "total" base speed with a biped eidolon.)

Hit Points:
Fused form hp would be 45hp (50 - 5 for dropping 1 Con modifier) + 36 temporary hp for a "total" of 81. Though technically you have to leave at least 1 temp hp or the eidolon will disappear so in essence you have 79 hp to play with before either the eidolon is dropped or gnome becomes unconscious which drops the eidolon anyway. Well technically 80 if you don't mind being staggered.

The up side is that you will effectively gain 5 hp when the eidolon goes away form the con increase (kinda like a reverse barbarian rage.)

Armor:
Nothing wrong here. Though I would recommend changing the +4 armor bonus of the eidolon into natural AC bonus (you can choose if its armor or natural) for a total of +6 natural AC bonus. Which means you can benefit from bracers of armor or a mage armor spell.


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Avianfoo wrote:

Base Speed:

Gnome gains +10ft from bipeds limbs(legs) evolution so with gnome base of 20ft it gives a total new base speed of 30ft movement in fused form. So the flight evolution also gives you 30ft fly (with good maneuverability).
(btw a half-elf synthesist would have 40ft "total" base speed with a biped eidolon.)

Is this really the case with bipedal synthesists? The legs evolution does not grant extra legs. It overlaps your starting pair of legs.


Umbral Reaver wrote:
Avianfoo wrote:

Base Speed:

Gnome gains +10ft from bipeds limbs(legs) evolution so with gnome base of 20ft it gives a total new base speed of 30ft movement in fused form. So the flight evolution also gives you 30ft fly (with good maneuverability).
(btw a half-elf synthesist would have 40ft "total" base speed with a biped eidolon.)
Is this really the case with bipedal synthesists? The legs evolution does not grant extra legs. It overlaps your starting pair of legs.

that's what I also thought, and that's why I'm wondering about it ^^

Scarab Sages

Umbral Reaver wrote:
Avianfoo wrote:

Base Speed:

Gnome gains +10ft from bipeds limbs(legs) evolution so with gnome base of 20ft it gives a total new base speed of 30ft movement in fused form. So the flight evolution also gives you 30ft fly (with good maneuverability).
(btw a half-elf synthesist would have 40ft "total" base speed with a biped eidolon.)
Is this really the case with bipedal synthesists? The legs evolution does not grant extra legs. It overlaps your starting pair of legs.

I would say no speed boost from the first pair of legs, for this reason.

I would point out though. The gnomes reduced speed comes from his physical form, and he is using the eidolon's form while fused.


I'm new to Pathfinder, does your summon get an attack for each offensive evolution he takes, or just gets one? Also, which skills do you use, the Eidolon's or the summoners?


Doromen wrote:

I'm new to Pathfinder, does your summon get an attack for each offensive evolution he takes, or just gets one?

"An eidolon has a pair of vicious claws at the end of its limbs, giving it two claw attacks." - APG

"An eidolon’s maw is full of razor-sharp teeth, giving it a bite attack." - APG

Doromen wrote:


Also, which skills do you use, the Eidolon's or the summoners?

"The eidolon has no skills or feats of its own." - UM

Being new is a thing, reading is another. These questions are clear enough. ;)

Amuny,


Amuny wrote:
Speed: 20ft or 30ft???

I think the question is: Is the fused synthesist a small or a medium sized creature? If still small, then speed should be 20, and you need to adjust AC, attacks and CMD for size. You seem to have removed all size bonuses/penalties from the fused writeup though, so if the assumption is that you're a medium sized creature, I'd go with a base speed of 30ft. I wouldn't count on the default pair of legs for a speed increase.


Amuny wrote:
Doromen wrote:

I'm new to Pathfinder, does your summon get an attack for each offensive evolution he takes, or just gets one?

"An eidolon has a pair of vicious claws at the end of its limbs, giving it two claw attacks." - APG

"An eidolon’s maw is full of razor-sharp teeth, giving it a bite attack." - APG

Doromen wrote:


Also, which skills do you use, the Eidolon's or the summoners?

"The eidolon has no skills or feats of its own." - UM

Being new is a thing, reading is another. These questions are clear enough. ;)

Amuny,

Thank you! I have comprehension issues so sometimes I literally need people to spell something out for me. Sorry to piggy back on your thread with my own questions.

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