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Hidden Master (Su): At 20th level, a ninja becomes a true master of her art. She can, as a standard action, cast greater invisibility on herself. While invisible in this way, she cannot be detected by any means, and not even invisibility purge, see invisibility, and true seeing can reveal her. She uses her ninja level as her caster level for this ability. Using this ability consumes 3 ki points from her ki pool. In addition, whenever the ninja deals sneak attack damage, she can sacrifice additional damage dice to apply a penalty to one ability score of the target equal to the number of dice sacrificed for 1 minute. This penalty does not stack with itself and cannot reduce an ability score below 1.
I know it says SU, but you can't dispel an SU and this has a caster level, and it says you cast a spell. In order to avoid confusion I think it should be an SU completely or be an SLA.
Maybe it was an SU because SLA's provoke attacks of opportunities, but that can be fixed by saying something like "unlike normal SLA's this ability does not provoke attacks of opportunities."This is more so people can FAQ it, and get it errata'd than to debate, but feel free to debate if you want of course.
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The caster level is only used to help define how many rounds this special invisibility lasts. In this case, 20 rounds of this uber greater invis!
/Ooo, look at the nice new PFRD!
//Shiny!
The caster level is only used to help define how many rounds this special invisibility lasts. In this case, 20 rounds of this uber greater invis!
/Ooo, look at the nice new PFRD!
//Shiny!
I disagree. They could have just say it last one round per ninja level, and that it works like greater invis, without any reference to casting.
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I disagree. They could have just say it last one round per ninja level, and that it works like greater invis, without any reference to casting.
You can disagree all you like, but that's what the CL reference is for. It's a Supernatural ability and that's all we need to know. Instead of using more words, they referred to greater invisibility (although this is much better than greater invisibility).
I disagree. They could have just say it last one round per ninja level, and that it works like greater invis, without any reference to casting.You can disagree all you like, but that's what the CL reference is for. It's a Supernatural ability and that's all we need to know. Instead of using more words, they referred to greater invisibility (although this is much better than greater invisibility).
That is obviously not all I need to know. You can't cast an SU.
They could have used less words by not referring to casing invis and caster levels so that kills that part of your argument.
example-->This works like great invisibility with a duration equal to the number of ninja levels you possess.
while I understand how Joseph interpretation seems obvious, I've flagged it as FAQ.
The ability could be read as the SU only being the "addition to improved invisibility":
So you cast impr. invisibility as spell-like, and because you're lvl 20 as a SU the effect of impr. invisibility is modified.
However in this case, a modification rarely has SU or something spelled out.
However as "cast" could be flavor for the vanishing trick which is a SU, I'm on the side of Joseph. Also, the ninja has no inherent ability to cast invisiblity or anything else.