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I have written this, and my players have agreed and added to it. It has run off two players, but we still have a strong base going.
The phone basket
There is a basket, or a bowl in which all players are obligated to put their cellphones, mp3s, ipods...whatever. They can be picked up after the gaming is done, and they can answer the phone if there is a call. Only technological devices allowed at the table are laptops and tablet computers. Wireless internet is off, and lan cable is restricted to the GM. Also, if the general consensus is achieved, only the pfrpg srd can be accessed if the internet is to stay on. Looking up Youtube, facebook or anything else non game related has consequences.
Off topic conversations
I understand that maybe you the hardcore fighting player find the roleplay of your fellow player boring and dull. But, if you do not respect his time, and talk about off topic stuff when it is not time for it, you will be warned once, then asked to go home. Time for off topic conversation is when we eat or when somebody goes to have a smoke or to the toilet.
Dice
Nobody is allowed to touch other player's dice without that player's permission. Transgressors will be warned, then sent home. If you do not have your own set of dice, get one. It is not that expensive, and if you really can't afford it, we will buy you one. Do not forget to bring your dice.
Food
Unless you brought something to the table, be it soda, munchies or actual food, you are not to take food unless offered it. People who never bring anything without a really good reason will most probably not be invited to come back.
Team play
If you have come to disrupt play and make a character diametrically opposite to what other players are playing, and to what the theme of the game is, you can pretty much pack your stuff and leave now. We will not tolerate such behavior. Parties should be able to work together well.
Personal hygiene
Every player has to be clean and of normal smelling breath.
List will continue.
The phone basket
I'd refuse. I'd agree with turn off your phone. But I'm an adult. I don't surrender personal belongs except in a courthouse or holding cell.
Off topic conversations
I was going to say something, but no. I agree pretty much. You didn't say OOC conversation just off topic.
Dice
People get funny with their dice. I always have extra dice in the middle of the table. That way anybody can use a die and nobody gets strange.
Food
Being 25% Arab, cheap people should be shot, killed, eaten, and served to pigs. Yes, people who are not generous should be reviled. 100% agree. Such a rule should never need to be said.
Team play
What if it's a 2 on 3 split decision?
Personal hygiene
But smelling of alcohol is normal for me...
I just wonder who you game with if so much that should be obvious needs to be said? Kids? The over 80? The insane? Sheltered Korean exchange students?
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I just wonder who you game with if so much that should be obvious needs to be said?
Indeed...
I agree with HarbinNick on the phone thing as well. I'm an adult, and should be treated accordingly...
Now, if I were to use it at an inappropriate time, sure, say something. And if I keep on using my phone in spite of a warning, feel free not to invite me again (or hell, even send me home)...
It's nice that you have players that are willing to put up with that list, but I show up to a game to have fun...
Your list? Not my idea of fun...
I realize that this list is not meant for me, and that I am not a perspective player...
And while I can agree in principle with some of what is on that list, unless your pool of perspective players are so truly anti-social that such a list is needed, such things are better left as common courtesy: the proverbial unspoken "Social Contract" as it were...
Just my "two cents"...
-That One Digitalelf Fellow-
Tear up list
Tell the players you are joking and you are all mature adults and dont need to have these rules written down. /toss scraps of paper into the rubbish.
What if everyone at the table is not a mature adult?
What if Hama is playing with a group of acquaintances and their friends instead of his own close friends?
Then the dregs of humanity are at his table and he should relocate to more human climates.
Then the dregs of humanity are at his table and he should relocate to more human climates.
I'll let my high school game club and the FLGS I go to know that they're the 'dregs of humanity' the next time I'm in.
(They actually were so I agree with you but still some people think that Some Gaming > Bad Gaming instead of No Gaming > Bad Gaming)
(They actually were so I agree with you but still some people think that Some Gaming > Bad Gaming instead of No Gaming > Bad Gaming)
I thought that way about friends from 18-22 and ended up graduating with about $1000 in other people's liquor bills on my credit card. It's how to be a very very unhappy and bitter person.
I have written this, and my players have agreed and added to it. It has run off two players, but we still have a strong base going.
The phone basket
There is a basket, or a bowl in which all players are obligated to put their cellphones, mp3s, ipods...whatever. They can be picked up after the gaming is done, and they can answer the phone if there is a call. Only technological devices allowed at the table are laptops and tablet computers. Wireless internet is off, and lan cable is restricted to the GM. Also, if the general consensus is achieved, only the pfrpg srd can be accessed if the internet is to stay on. Looking up Youtube, facebook or anything else non game related has consequences.Off topic conversations
I understand that maybe you the hardcore fighting player find the roleplay of your fellow player boring and dull. But, if you do not respect his time, and talk about off topic stuff when it is not time for it, you will be warned once, then asked to go home. Time for off topic conversation is when we eat or when somebody goes to have a smoke or to the toilet.Dice
Nobody is allowed to touch other player's dice without that player's permission. Transgressors will be warned, then sent home. If you do not have your own set of dice, get one. It is not that expensive, and if you really can't afford it, we will buy you one. Do not forget to bring your dice.Food
Unless you brought something to the table, be it soda, munchies or actual food, you are not to take food unless offered it. People who never bring anything without a really good reason will most probably not be invited to come back.Team play
If you have come to disrupt play and make a character diametrically opposite to what other players are playing, and to what the theme of the game is, you can pretty much pack your stuff and leave now. We will not tolerate such behavior. Parties should be able to work together well.Personal hygiene
Every player has to be clean and of normal smelling...
Phone basket: Most of my players respect no phones at the table, but one guy utterly refuses to give up his phone and has gone so far as to say he can't play if he can't have access to his phone all the time. The reason is that he's a family man and he has to be available to his wife and kid at all times. What's really annoying is that his wife keeps calling him all the time, even though she knows we are playing, and always at the most inconvenient times. He's always constantly having to leave to do chores for his family. It's really annoying, but he's a great role-player and good friend so I guess we just have to accept it.
Off topic banter: My players are notorious for their off topic banter and joking, several times per session I have to stop the game to get them to keep their focus. So far nothing I have tried has worked to stop this, part of the experience for them is the social aspect and roleplaying apparently comes second to that, which is really annoying to me and the one guy who actually cares about RP'ing in my games. They do keep their focus during combat and other tactical aspects of the game, so I guess as long as they get to roll some dice they can keep their focus.
Dice: Not a problem for us.
food: My players always bring their own food, also I like to be charitable and I know my friends will repay the favor so no problem there. The only complaint I have is that the snacks and food tends to clutter the table and leave a lot of garbage to be cleaned up afterwards, which my player's rarely do.
Team play: My players are excellent team players, we have played for so long that we know each others strengths, weaknesses and gaming styles pretty well.
Personal hygiene: not a problem for us.
Phone Basket: We're horrible losers and never have anyone using their phones during play =(
Off Topic: Usually happens once per session, but it's always a good laugh so we allow it (we're all guilty)
Dice: We all have multiple sets ready to go at a moments notice!
Food: None of us really eat during play but my house (our usual) is about 1 min from a corner store, so any snacks are pretty close at hand.
Team Play: Unfortunately we suffer from a lack of this... I remember one game where the DM started us in a battle and one of the PCs turned and one-shot'd another PC "because it was hilarious" (which it was) and then killed the enemies. Even when we try to be good teammates roleplay gets in the way and we're turned on eachother for whatever reason. We're all guilty of it though...
Hygiene: Not a problem, we're all very clean.
Personal hygiene
Every player has to be clean and of normal smelling...
... until the Funions come out.
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Then the dregs of humanity are at his table and he should relocate to more human climates.I'll let my high school game club and the FLGS I go to know that they're the 'dregs of humanity' the next time I'm in.
(They actually were so I agree with you but still some people think that Some Gaming > Bad Gaming instead of No Gaming > Bad Gaming)
I think the "bad gaming better than no gaming" argument is a trap. Perhaps I am spoiled living in metropolitan area and have a deep pool of players available. However the internet has made finding games easier than ever. Some people feel they have to play with certain gamers because they are good friends or are the only guy who plays RPGs around for hundreds of miles. I just dont buy it.
I had to stop playing with my best friends because they just didn't care to take the game seriously. I started going to public events and hosted a few one shots. After some time I put together the best gaming group I have ever had. Going 3 years strong now and no plans on quitting in sight. You have to take steps to get the right folks for your gaming tastes. In Hama's defense this list is to try and secure that. I myself dont have such restrictive need for my games so I was commenting on how over the top I felt his list idea is.
Im not going to insult people who I find incompatible as gamers. I will not put up with them either just because its better to game than not game.
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I was going to say something, but no. I agree pretty much. You didn't say OOC conversation just off topic.
I meant OOC conversation. Because when suddenly, in the middle of tense combat someone starts talking about a movie they seen last night, i would hit their teeth with a chair.
What if it's a 2 on 3 split decision?
Well, it's fine. They can roleplay it. I meant that player characters should be capable of working together to achieve a goal, and that they should be willing to accept plot hooks. I'll take none of that 'but my character wouldn't wanna do that' BS. If he wouldn't, what is he doing in my game?
But smelling of alcohol is normal for me...
I just wonder who you game with if so much that should be obvious needs to be said? Kids? The over 80? The insane? Sheltered Korean exchange students?
Also, i forgot to mention, no alcohol or drugs at the table. Anyways, i used to play with two magic the gathering players. One of them never showered. The other never brushed his teeth. You can guess how awesome it was.
Tell the players you are joking and you are all mature adults and dont need to have these rules written down. /toss scraps of paper into the rubbish.
Unfortunately, most adults i know aren't really that mature.
And while I can agree in principle with some of what is on that list, unless your pool of perspective players are so truly anti-social that such a list is needed, such things are better left as common courtesy: the proverbial unspoken "Social Contract" as it were...
Some people need constant reminding. Not really anti-social, just sloppy and well, lazy. As for the phone, they sit near the table, in easy reach, in case someone calls. I am not a monster, if your phone is ringing, of course you can answer. It could be an emergency.
Most of my players respect no phones at the table, but one guy utterly refuses to give up his phone and has gone so far as to say he can't play if he can't have access to his phone all the time. The reason is that he's a family man and he has to be available to his wife and kid at all times. What's really annoying is that his wife keeps calling him all the time, even though she knows we are playing, and always at the most inconvenient times. He's always constantly having to leave to do chores for his family. It's really annoying, but he's a great role-player and good friend so I guess we just have to accept it.
Why not tell him it bothers you, and that he should accept and honor the time you all devote to the game? We have a family man amongst us. The only two times he left the game was when his kid got ill so he had to take it to the doctor, and when his wife broke her leg. When we asked him at the begining of his playing with us will he be leaving often because of his family (which we were totally cool about), he said this:"Hell no. You all devote time and effort to be here, leaving loved ones behind. Why i should do any less baffles me."
Mortagon wrote:
Most of my players respect no phones at the table, but one guy utterly refuses to give up his phone and has gone so far as to say he can't play if he can't have access to his phone all the time. The reason is that he's a family man and he has to be available to his wife and kid at all times. What's really annoying is that his wife keeps calling him all the time, even though she knows we are playing, and always at the most inconvenient times. He's always constantly having to leave to do chores for his family. It's really annoying, but he's a great role-player and good friend so I guess we just have to accept it.
Why not tell him it bothers you, and that he should accept and honor the time you all devote to the game? We have a family man amongst us. The only two times he left the game was when his kid got ill so he had to take it to the doctor, and when his wife broke her leg. When we asked him at the begining of his playing with us will he be leaving often because of his family (which we were totally cool about), he said this:"Hell no. You all devote time and effort to be here, leaving loved ones behind. Why i should do any less baffles me."
Oh trust me I've told him, several times in fact. It usually comes up almost every session, but he utterly refuses to do anything about it. He is totally whipped by his wife and doesn't dare to face the consequences of not answering her calls. I guess it's something we just have to live with. This guy is a great role-player and always brings a good mood with him, in fact I will say that he's the glue that holds our group together. So this is one flaw I'm willing to forgive.