Can a monk take a feat with natural attack as a prereq?

[Will Pratt]

In the APG a feat you can get has a prerec of Natural Weapons the feat is Eldritch Claws the monk states as follows "A monk's unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons." if he is considered as having natural weps for effects that enhance or improve natural would he be able to get the feat?

[Bascaria]

Will Pratt wrote:

In the APG a feat you can get has a prerec of Natural Weapons the feat is Eldritch Claws the monk states as follows "A monk's unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons." if he is considered as having natural weps for effects that enhance or improve natural would he be able to get the feat?

Don't think so. His unarmed strikes can be targeted by effects like magic fang--that's what the line is talking about--but they don't count as natural weapons for the purposes of qualifying for feats.

[Will Pratt]

I didn't think so but wanted to check thankyou for the help

[lro]

http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/rules/monksAndMonsterFeats&page=1#45

As said there, they count as natural weapons for taking feats, but you still cannot take the improved natural attack feat.

Hope I were to any help.

[Tharg The Pirate King]

A monk's unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons.

since they are treated as natural for the purpose of effects this would mean that a monk does qualifi for feats that need natural weapon prereq. However like previous post stated. They have ruled that Improved natural attack will not work (unlike 3.5 rules). you can take it but it will not help you. Now if you know that you are somehow going to get a pair of claws the next level you can take the feat and declare claws you just will not get any benefit untill you have claws.

[Bascaria]

lro wrote:

http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/rules/monksAndMonsterFeats&page=1#45

As said there, they count as natural weapons for taking feats, but you still cannot take the improved natural attack feat.

Hope I were to any help.

For what it is worth, here is the final word from Jason Bulhman via James Jacobs from that thread linked above:

James for Jason wrote:

HA!

And I'm flip flopping AGAIN!

Jason crunched his numbers and the official errata is this—the Improved Natural Attack feat can not be applied to unarmed strike. We'll be issuing an errata for that feat that adds this sentence to the feat:

"Improved Natural Attack can not be applied to unarmed strikes."

Unarmed strikes ARE still treated as natural weapons for most effects (particularly for the spell magic fang and for amulets of magic fang), but the Improved Natural Attack feat is an exception to that rule.

So! There ya go! Official errata! Sorry it took so long to nail it down.

So yeah, it seems as though the ruling is that for the purposes of the feat Improved Natural Attack, the monk's unarmed strikes do not qualify. There is a heavy implication that for the purposes of all other feats, they do.

So Eldritch Claws looks good to go. I'm not sure it is a necessarily worthwhile investment of a feat, unless you plan on fighting lots of devils and lycanthropes, since by the time you qualify your fists already count as magic, so all you are getting is that they count as silver too. Even then, I would say there are better ways to spend your feats as a monk, but it looks like a legal choice.