Dragon Disciple Build


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i swear i looked and searched and while i read some interesting mods, i was wondering since those threads were so old, if someone could help with the Dragon Disciple build.

I'm GMing a new campaign and one of the players would like to be work towards that prestige class in hopes of turning into a dragon(ish)

any help with build options would be awesome.

They are starting at level 5


MaceoDKat wrote:

i swear i looked and searched and while i read some interesting mods, i was wondering since those threads were so old, if someone could help with the Dragon Disciple build.

I'm GMing a new campaign and one of the players would like to be work towards that prestige class in hopes of turning into a dragon(ish)

any help with build options would be awesome.

They are starting at level 5

Bard or Sorcerer builds go really nicely, but more than that I can't really tell you to be honest. Part of the thing I like about Pathfinder is that there is an essentially unlimited number of ways of doing something


Have a look at Hurgah the Reaver here.

He is built for a PbP game that stated at 7th, but the idea is to begin with four levels of barbarian, followed by a level of sorcerer, ten levels DD and then barbarian for the rest.

His main force is tearing stuff up with natural attacks. For in-game examples of how he fights, see THIS THREAD.

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It depends on what they want to be effective at. The DD can be really powerful...

It partially depends on how you are doing stats. DD gets a lot of bonuses to Strength, Nat armor, etc.

They can be a decent melee fighter who can have a crazy AC via casting shield and mage armor on themselves.

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I've been thinking of this as well, and here are some things I've come up with. Hope they're helpful to you, and I hope to find some other ideas from other people!

- If you are going sorcerer and aren't going to focus on spellcasting (which you won't be able to anyway), look at the Crossblooded archetype from Ultimate Magic, or the Eldritch Heritage feat chain to get some other bloodline abilities, such as Orc (good bonus spell and feat list, and inherent Strength boosts), Abyssal (again, Strength boost), or Infernal (the Pit-Touched wild bloodline from Ultimate Magic) for a Con boost.
- If you are going as a natural weapon Dragon Disciple, it might be a good idea to take two levels of ranger, with the natural weapon style, to get the Aspect of the Beast feat at level 2 (to get natural claw attacks).
- Half-orcs can take the Toothy racial trait to get a natural bite attack.
- I've looked into going into DD with a bard (arcane duelist), but I don't think you can get enough bard levels to make use of the class abilities. To me, sorcerer seems to be the way to do it.

My main problems with this class is being able to buff your claws/bite. I guess you need an amulet of mighty fists, but it would be much easier if there were a druid or ranger in your group to help out with barkskin and greater magic fang.

If you go with half-orc, focus on Strength, get access to the Orc bloodline, and into Dragon Disciple, you'll end up with a pretty nasty Strength score. You won't be that great of a caster, but should be able to buff yourself up a bit. At high level, you will be able to spend combats in dragon form and be really scary.

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he wanted to be a paladin that would prestige into the DD

i wasnt even sure if that was possible... can he multi-class a sorc or bard to a paladin to a DD?

(thanks for all the responses btw)

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MaceoDKat wrote:

he wanted to be a paladin that would prestige into the DD

i wasnt even sure if that was possible... can he multi-class a sorc or bard to a paladin to a DD?

(thanks for all the responses btw)

It's arcane only, you have to pick the dragon bloodline, speak draconic etc.

Depending on stats, take a look at monk levels... this allows you to really max multiple boosts (sometimes be MAD can be a negative... sometimes is can be a positive...).

You can get rid of INT, and on point buy hitting 13-14 isn't terrible.

If you start your STR at 16+racial (Human) and then spread the love, you should be in a pretty good spot. You will find when you get up a bit your AC bonuses will be stacking quite high.

Base 10, +2 Dex, +2 Wis, +4 mage armor, +4 shield, +1-3 nat, +1 monk, and that is without any deflection, feat, other nat armor, morale etc. bonuses to AC. Then you can stack on Cat's Grace and Owl's Wisdom for another +2 each.

You won't be doing as much damage as the barbarian version, but you certainly won't be getting hit as much...

It becomes a style question. Play the character he wants and flavour the additional levels to suit his style and still remain relevant.


MaceoDKat wrote:

he wanted to be a paladin that would prestige into the DD

i wasnt even sure if that was possible... can he multi-class a sorc or bard to a paladin to a DD?

(thanks for all the responses btw)

There is a thread going on about that here. That is not your player by any chance? ;-)

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Sangalor wrote:
MaceoDKat wrote:

he wanted to be a paladin that would prestige into the DD

i wasnt even sure if that was possible... can he multi-class a sorc or bard to a paladin to a DD?

(thanks for all the responses btw)

There is a thread going on about that here. That is not your player by any chance? ;-)

nope, not me but thanks for linking it, i'll check it out

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lol, he's in my campaign. i suggested that the party use the message boards to help look into their builds, just shocked that they actually listened.

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