I was just messing around with a build for an unarmed striking efreeti bloodline sorcerer (I know, a convoluted mess), and discovered something I find quite ridiculous... I'm not saying anyone should want to do this, but it seems you can if you really feel like it.
I'm aware that it is possible to take multiple archetypes as long as they don't replace the same abilities, but this seems a bit much for only three levels of monk. Someone please tell me I'm wrong.
Level 1
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bonus feat
--> switched out for efreeti style (or any other 1st in chain style) from Many Forms
flurry of blows
--> switched out for advice (inspire courage) from Sensei
stunning fist
-->switched out for elemental fist from 4 Winds
unarmed strike
--> unaffected
Level 2
-------
bonus feat
--> switched out for efreeti stance (or any other 2nd in chain style) from Many Forms
evasion
--> switch out for toughness and +1 natural armor from Sacred Mountain
Level 3
-------
fast movement
--> switched out for advice (inspire competence) from Sensei
maneuver training
--> unaffected
still mind
--> not switched out for anything because I need it for monastic legacy, but you could still switch even this out with at least 2 different archetypes, such as Drunken Master and Ki Mystic, without any overlaps
Four (and with still mind, possibly five) different archetypes for only three levels? Is this really legal (whether or not you would allow it in your games)?
EDIT: Sensei is a no-go as both it and Many Forms replace the Flurry ability. Thanks, Revan.
Sensei can't be taken with Master of Many Styles; both replace Flurry of Blows.
A master list of monk archetype combos which are legal can be found here: http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/general/monkArchetypeCombinations
Perfectly legal. I have an interest in playing a Monk of the Mountain2/FighterX in full plate, just for kicks.
Hrm... I still doubt my DM would let me get away with it, as it is just too much stuff all at once, but a build like this is the closest I'm gonna get to making a Dark Phoenix-like character. All I want is fire magic, flaming fists that deal a decent amount of damage, and telekinesis. Well, that, and to be able to eat entire galaxies. =(
Sensei can't be taken with Master of Many Styles; both replace Flurry of Blows.
A master list of monk archetype combos which are legal can be found here: http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/general/monkArchetypeCombinations
Whoops... I only read until the end of the first paragraph of Fuse Styles, not the entire entry. Thanks for the correction, and the link! (Sensei isn't really that important to me anyway.)
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Level 1
-------
bonus feat
--> switched out for efreeti style (or any other 1st in chain style) from Many Forms
flurry of blows
--> switched out for advice (inspire courage) from Sensei
stunning fist
-->switched out for elemental fist from 4 Winds
unarmed strike
--> unaffected
You cannot combine Many styles and four winds either as they both replace perfect self
You cannot combine Many styles and four winds either as they both replace perfect self
Level 1
-------
bonus feat
--> switched out for efreeti style (or any other 1st in chain style) from Many Forms
flurry of blows
--> switched out for advice (inspire courage) from Sensei
stunning fist
-->switched out for elemental fist from 4 Winds
unarmed strike
--> unaffected
True, but does that still apply if you're dipping into the Monk class and you never actually gain the Perfect Self class ability? I'm not debating. I'm seriously asking you if it's legal.
Yes, the whole archetype must be compatible with one another. One single conflict and you can't use both.
True, but does that still apply if you're dipping into the Monk class and you never actually gain the Perfect Self class ability? I'm not debating. I'm seriously asking you if it's legal.
Curses! Oh well, I suppose I'll have to learn Elemental Fist another way. That's all I was using the Four Winds monk for in the first place. If I take the Dragon Ferocity feat, I'll still get a version of Elemental Fist that is limited to one specific energy type. And I only need one in my situation.
Thanks for pointing that out and setting me straight, guys.