| Impenetrable |
Just reading through this for the first time. Under Monks (pg 57 and 58), there seem to be some conflicts between the description of "Flurry of Blows" and the "Flurry of Blows Attack Bonus" column in table 3-10. In the chart it seems as though they get extra attacks at levels 6, 11, and 16. The description states levels 8 and 15. Am I just reading it wrong?
Also, the description causes confusion regarding the exact attack bonuses. "For the purpose of these attacks, the monk’s base attack bonus is equal to his monk level." "...he may make one additional attack...as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat." Took me a long time to figure out that the -2 penalty for Two-Weapon Fighting was already incorporated into the "Flurry of Blows Attack Bonus" column, this could be clarified with a chart footnote or further description or something.
(I'm not looking to play a monk or anything, just thought I'd give some feedback. Everything else is great so far.)
| Abraham spalding |
His BAB is treated as equal to his monk level.
This means at level 6 he has a BAB of +6... at +6 you get an iterative attack at +1.
SO it would go like this:
lvl -- BAB/Number of attacks (minus penalty from flurry of blows)
1 -- -1/-1
2 -- 0/0
3 -- 1/1
4 -- 2/2
5 -- 3/3
6 -- 4/4/-1
7 -- 5/5/0
8 -- 6/6/1/1
9 -- 7/7/2/2
10 -- 8/8/3/3
11 -- 9/9/4/4/-1
12 -- 10/10/5/5/0
13 -- 11/11/6/6/1
14 -- 12/12/7/7/2
15 -- 13/13/8/8/3/3
16 -- 14/14/9/9/4/4/-1
17 -- 15/15/10/10/5/5/0
18 -- 16/16/11/11/6/6/1
19 -- 17/17/12/12/7/7/2
20 -- 18/18/13/13/8/8/3
What happens is you get your off hand extra attacks (as if from two weapon fighting) at the same levels you would actually qualify for the improved and greater two weapon fighting feats, but you gain your iterative attacks at the same time a fighter would.
So a rogue (with the same 'normal' BAB as a monk) would qualify for improved two weapon fighting at level 8 and 15.
A fighter gets an extra attack at levels 6,11,and 16 from his BAB.
IF you combined these two things you'll find the exact times that a monk gets his extra attacks while making a flurry of blows.
| Impenetrable |
I gotcha... wow that's really confusing. What really threw me off is that his ACTUAL BAB doesn't hit +6 until level 8. So I was cross-referencing with that, but that doesn't work... his BAB and his FoBAB follow completely separate paths, they're not related at all. I guess that's necessary for balance somehow? Seems overly complicated at first glance.
Starglim
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I gotcha... wow that's really confusing. What really threw me off is that his ACTUAL BAB doesn't hit +6 until level 8. So I was cross-referencing with that, but that doesn't work... his BAB and his FoBAB follow completely separate paths, they're not related at all. I guess that's necessary for balance somehow? Seems overly complicated at first glance.
You don't have to do any of that. The Flurry of Blows bonus column tells you how many attacks he gets and what attack bonus he uses (substituting for his BAB and subsuming all penalties for multiple actions).
| Impenetrable |
Yeah, I got that... which is good, that it incorporates all those penalties, makes it easier (although, like I say, I was originally unclear that it was all incorporated). That last post I was just commenting on the fact that it seems odd that the FoB attack bonus is totally independent of and unrelated to his BAB. Don't recall seeing that kind of thing anywhere else in the game... guess that's how it was originally developed though, it's not just Pathfinder.