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Brooks is gone.
Gotcha!!!


I believe the term we're looking for here is 'Too little, too late.'

Mind you, hopefully this will get people thinking about just how much of our media is controlled by so few.

Also maybe see the day FOX is forced to change their flagship news channel from the Fox News Network to the Fox Entertainment Network. Not one bit of real journalism involved in that heap of garbage. Also chuckling a bit at all the other media going nuts over this. Glass houses guys, glass houses ....


Gern Blacktusk wrote:

I believe the term we're looking for here is 'Too little, too late.'

Mind you, hopefully this will get people thinking about just how much of our media is controlled by so few.

Also maybe see the day FOX is forced to change their flagship news channel from the Fox News Network to the Fox Entertainment Network. Not one bit of real journalism involved in that heap of garbage. Also chuckling a bit at all the other media going nuts over this. Glass houses guys, glass houses ....

Oh sure, and hopefully we'll see James Murdock go soon, but small victories are always appreciated, and this is no small victory. It shows news international is really on the run now. What with BskyB taker cancelled and now this.

Silver Crusade

You monster. >:(

You had me thinking Mel Brooks had passed away for a second.

(to hell with this Brooks though, for serious)

Sovereign Court

Yeah seriously, that was an awful feeling to think that Mel Brooks had died. :(


Who's this Mel Brooks fella? *Goes back to singing*

[No she isn't dead, nor would I wish her so, but her resignation is a cause for relief and excitement. One more victory in a hard faught campaign against the Murdock Media]

Sovereign Court

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Zombieneighbours wrote:

Who's this Mel Brooks fella? *Goes back to singing*

[No she isn't dead, nor would I wish her so, but her resignation is a cause for relief and excitement. One more victory in a hard faught campaign against the Murdock Media]

Murdoch

Know your enemy.


GeraintElberion wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:

Who's this Mel Brooks fella? *Goes back to singing*

[No she isn't dead, nor would I wish her so, but her resignation is a cause for relief and excitement. One more victory in a hard faught campaign against the Murdock Media]

Murdoch

Know your enemy.

touche old bean. Damned non-phoneticly spelled names

Liberty's Edge

Zombieneighbours wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:

Who's this Mel Brooks fella? *Goes back to singing*

[No she isn't dead, nor would I wish her so, but her resignation is a cause for relief and excitement. One more victory in a hard faught campaign against the Murdock Media]

Murdoch

Know your enemy.

touche old bean. Damned non-phoneticly spelled names

I suppose you have a problem with "chair," "church," and "chicken," too.


Gark the Goblin wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:

Who's this Mel Brooks fella? *Goes back to singing*

[No she isn't dead, nor would I wish her so, but her resignation is a cause for relief and excitement. One more victory in a hard faught campaign against the Murdock Media]

Murdoch

Know your enemy.

touche old bean. Damned non-phoneticly spelled names
I suppose you have a problem with "chair," "church," and "chicken," too.

At one stage I had problems with almost all words. I know longer have a problem with chicken ect, because of long years of having practices and memorising them. I know longer need to figure out the spelling on each usage.

The Exchange

Zombieneighbours wrote:
Gark the Goblin wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:

Who's this Mel Brooks fella? *Goes back to singing*

[No she isn't dead, nor would I wish her so, but her resignation is a cause for relief and excitement. One more victory in a hard faught campaign against the Murdock Media]

Murdoch

Know your enemy.

touche old bean. Damned non-phoneticly spelled names
I suppose you have a problem with "chair," "church," and "chicken," too.
At one stage I had problems with almost all words. I know longer have a problem with chicken ect, because of long years of having practices and memorising them. I know longer need to figure out the spelling on each usage.

One of my good friends has issues like that. He can only spell due to rote memorization. Makes basic errors in his sentence structures too, but can tend to fix that with a spell checker and reading it to himself out loud before posting.

He was a blast in school when the teacher would give him hell about it he would calmly explain it in such a way the teacher felt like dirt. good times.


Crimson Jester wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:
Gark the Goblin wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:

Who's this Mel Brooks fella? *Goes back to singing*

[No she isn't dead, nor would I wish her so, but her resignation is a cause for relief and excitement. One more victory in a hard faught campaign against the Murdock Media]

Murdoch

Know your enemy.

touche old bean. Damned non-phoneticly spelled names
I suppose you have a problem with "chair," "church," and "chicken," too.
At one stage I had problems with almost all words. I know longer have a problem with chicken ect, because of long years of having practices and memorising them. I know longer need to figure out the spelling on each usage.

One of my good friends has issues like that. He can only spell due to rote memorization. Makes basic errors in his sentence structures too, but can tend to fix that with a spell checker and reading it to himself out loud before posting.

He was a blast in school when the teacher would give him hell about it he would calmly explain it in such a way the teacher felt like dirt. good times.

I can produce stand up prose, with an array of aids. But it is considerably more work than I am willing to put into the average forum post. So I save it for things which actually matter. ;)

Spell checks do help a little, but they rarely don't catch homophones with separate meanings.

Grammar checks just aren't there yet.

Voice to text programs are useful, but spoken English, and written English are far from the same thing.

I was twenty something before I taught my self a copping mechanism to deal with to verse two. On an intellectual level I have known the difference between two, to, and too since I was 6 or 7.

I could I suppose get my other half to proof every post I make, but I doubt that would be a good use of her time ;)

Oddly, this forum has been the only place I have ever found it become a real issue. People here seem incredible keen on attacking others for less than perfect spelling and or grammar. While that isn't unique response, normally a simple explanation of the fact I am dyslexic ends such discussion.

Here, I have had people telling me I'm not dyslexic, or telling me that I am making excuses, and intensifying their attacks. I don't mind per say, the bullying at school was far worse than anything random people of the internet can do to me. But it is very strange to be sitting with a copy of my statement of special educational needs not 20' from me, a copy of my educational psychologists report prepared for the DART team at Lincoln University, and be told that I am not dyslexic, I am just stupid and lazy.

Which is why this might sound a little defensive. Before I started posting here, I had finally started to come to piece with it. I thought the ignorance and stupidity was largely a thing of the past, left on the play ground. It doesn't bother me as much as that did, having relatively recently had my supervisor at my last proper job pressure me out of a job because of it, did bother me, but hey such is life.

That is why wise cracks about me making a mistake like murdoch/murdock, which does not impact the ability of the reader to understand the statement, urks me a little.


It doesn't mean crap. She will be hired quietly by one of the hundreds of Murdock's news rags after the scandal dies down. Unless she serves some jail time she won't suffer one bit.


Xabulba wrote:
It doesn't mean crap. She will be hired quietly by one of the hundreds of Murdock's news rags after the scandal dies down. Unless she serves some jail time she won't suffer one bit.

Be that as it may, it still represents a victory, part of a ever increasing wave of bad news for news corp. It also means the pressure can actually move on up to James Murdoch now.

Les Hinton of the wall street journal is gone too. He was head of news international when all this kicked off.

The Exchange

Zombieneighbours wrote:

I can produce stand up prose, with an array of aids. But it is considerably more work than I am willing to put into the average forum post. So I save it for things which actually matter. ;)

Spell checks do help a little, but they rarely don't catch homophones with separate meanings.

Grammar checks just aren't there yet.

Voice to text programs are useful, but spoken English, and written English are far from the same thing.

I was twenty something before I taught my self a copping mechanism to deal with to verse two. On an intellectual level I have known the difference between two, to, and too since I was 6 or 7.

I could I suppose get my other half to proof every post I make, but I doubt that would be a good use of her time ;)

Oddly, this forum has been the only place I have ever found it become a real issue. People here seem incredible keen on attacking others for less than perfect spelling and or grammar. While that isn't unique response, normally a simple explanation of the fact I am dyslexic ends such discussion.

Here, I have had people telling me I'm not dyslexic, or telling me that I am making excuses, and intensifying their attacks. I don't mind per say, the bullying at school was far worse than anything random people of the internet can do to me. But it is very strange to be sitting with a copy of my statement of special educational needs not 20' from me, a copy of my educational psychologists report prepared for the DART team at Lincoln University, and be told that I am not dyslexic, I am just stupid and lazy.

Which is why this might sound a little defensive. Before I started posting here, I had finally started to come to piece with it. I thought the ignorance and stupidity was largely a thing of the past, left on the play ground. It doesn't bother me as much as that did, having relatively recently had my supervisor at my last proper job pressure me out of a job because of it, did bother me, but hey such is life.

That is why wise cracks about me making a mistake like murdoch/murdock, which does not impact the ability of the reader to understand the statement, urks me a little.

I will not make fun of your Dyslexia, Lord knows I make enough mistakes on my own. A simple statement or jab as you say about something like murdoch/murdock, should be taken, in my opinion with a grain of salt. it just is not that important, in my view, to get worked up over.

I have seen people call you out on using the dyslexia as a crutch. Honestly I have seen a few posts where it seems you have gotten very aggressive then defensive, and yes seen in a certain light it is very easy to say that you have done this. Now whether you meant to or not is another subject entirely and really not for me to say.

I do not feel you are being defensive now, and thank you for sharing how you feel.

As for being stupid, I have found most of us are on one subject or another, and frankly some of your opinions you have expressed on various threads have left me more than once scratching my head; wondering honestly if you hold certain view points or are just trolling. Typically rather than call you out on it, I wait and see. I tell you man on a lot of issues I just do not see eye to eye with you. I am sure however others feel the same about me. Which is open and honest dialog is so much better than a flame war.

Plus it teaches me some people just are never going to understand some subjects and no one wins an argument on the internet.

As far as your better half having better things to do than proof read for you, damn skippy now tell her to go to the kitchen and make me a sammich ;D


Crimson Jester wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:

I can produce stand up prose, with an array of aids. But it is considerably more work than I am willing to put into the average forum post. So I save it for things which actually matter. ;)

Spell checks do help a little, but they rarely don't catch homophones with separate meanings.

Grammar checks just aren't there yet.

Voice to text programs are useful, but spoken English, and written English are far from the same thing.

I was twenty something before I taught my self a copping mechanism to deal with to verse two. On an intellectual level I have known the difference between two, to, and too since I was 6 or 7.

I could I suppose get my other half to proof every post I make, but I doubt that would be a good use of her time ;)

Oddly, this forum has been the only place I have ever found it become a real issue. People here seem incredible keen on attacking others for less than perfect spelling and or grammar. While that isn't unique response, normally a simple explanation of the fact I am dyslexic ends such discussion.

Here, I have had people telling me I'm not dyslexic, or telling me that I am making excuses, and intensifying their attacks. I don't mind per say, the bullying at school was far worse than anything random people of the internet can do to me. But it is very strange to be sitting with a copy of my statement of special educational needs not 20' from me, a copy of my educational psychologists report prepared for the DART team at Lincoln University, and be told that I am not dyslexic, I am just stupid and lazy.

Which is why this might sound a little defensive. Before I started posting here, I had finally started to come to piece with it. I thought the ignorance and stupidity was largely a thing of the past, left on the play ground. It doesn't bother me as much as that did, having relatively recently had my supervisor at my last proper job pressure me out of a job because of it, did bother me, but hey such is life.

That is why wise cracks about me making a

...

I don't on troll on paizo boards (with one exception I can remember when I was very upset about threads censorship for a silly of reasons.)

I am interested in having the discussion. I know I don't always come across that well, but that is because in trying to make sure that my statements can be read and understood, I tend to loose the soft edges to my language. It makes me sound far more strident and unreasonable than I really am. I have to choose between illegible and unreasonable sounding. Guess which I choose ;)

dyslexia as a crutch:

Yeah, I've seen that allegation once or twice.

I will freely admit I do get defensive about it. But I am not entirely sure that being prickly about it is unreasonable.

Age 7 I understood in principle, how a scanning electron microscope works, knew what an HIV virus looked like when imaged on one, knew what HIV did, knew how black holes formed, had had my first introduction to the concept of quark, knew what evolution was and the basics of how it worked, knew what a gene was, knew how CO2 caused more energy to be retained in the atmospheric system and so on. But I couldn't read 'The cat sat on the mat' or 'the quick brown fox, jumped over the lazy dog'
I could recognise the sentence and tell you what it said, but I couldn't read it, because try as I might, I just couldn't learn how these letters made words. Can you imagine what that is like?

I'm not just a little dyslexic. I'm not little johnny who's mother is looking for an excuse, for their slightly lower than expected reading age. I was the worst case identified in my country at a time when the country didn't even want to accept the existence of it. This disability has dominated and shaped my life.

But it isn't a crutch. I have those, the icons method, taught to me a maple hayes(which I could only afford to attend thanks to government funding:- socialism allowed me to read in effect ;)), I place a heavy reliance on both my mother, and my other half. Almost any official paperwork requires that I get one or both to read it over too ensure its right, and everything I write, from course work to fiction, that is more important that a discussion amongst role-playing fans, has to be extensively proof read and edited by them.

I don't think I use it as a crutch, I think it is the reason I need intellectual crutches.

I think to many people, especially Americans(due to the "hard work alone is all you need to succeed" element of the american character which while admirable, is incredibly naive), confuse excuse and reason.

I don't use my dyslexia as an excuse, at least not ever intentionally, I don't just not bother, and then blame my dyslexia. I struggle against it, try to do as well as I can, but am ham-strung by it. Does that make sense. Under such conditions, I don't mind thinking a little slack on it would go a long way. I hope that makes sense. It is slightly stream of conciousness-y

Disagreement:

No shit we disagree, but that is healthy. People care about things, and that will always result in argument. Keeping arguments civil certainly helps, but argument is a good thing. There have been some really awesome fairly heated debates on these boards, interesting fun and enlightening all.

What I don't think is healthy is the attitude of some here on the boards to them. It is my experience that in the vast majority of discussions on these boards that turn nasty, there is a very clear tipping point into nastiness. Its the point where the first small blue person, troll avatar
or parody thread turns up. Before at point, the participants generally play nice. They might argue hard, the thread might get a little heated, but things only really get bad after people start demeaning the entire discussion.

If you or I where to go into a system discussion thread and say "this is boring and I'm not interested, I've not been previously involved in this discussion but I am just going to post here to take the piss out of your obsession with game mechanics" imagine the response we'd see? yet when some one turns up with a troll avatar in political or religious threads, not one bats an eyelid.

Specifically what stuff do you not see eye to eye with me, and what are your reasons for not doing so. Maybe I can explain my position more clearly and calmly and we can find some points of agreement. Agreement is also good ;)


Crimson Jester wrote:
As far as your better half having better things to do than proof read for you, damn skippy now tell her to go to the kitchen and make me a sammich ;D

Dude, I do the cooking in our relationship.

The Exchange

Zombieneighbours wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
As far as your better half having better things to do than proof read for you, damn skippy now tell her to go to the kitchen and make me a sammich ;D
Dude, I do the cooking in our relationship.

me too!


Crimson Jester wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
As far as your better half having better things to do than proof read for you, damn skippy now tell her to go to the kitchen and make me a sammich ;D
Dude, I do the cooking in our relationship.
me too!

Got a chicken cooked with chillies and tomato with Gnocchi cooking away for supper when my sparklepants gets home, it is going to be sweet.

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Just ate some southwest white chicken chili. Not bad.

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