If I use a scroll, staff, wand, or spell-like ability, am I considered to be casting a spell for the purposes of abilities like Spell Perfection or metmagic rods?
I'd say no to scroll or wand, as those are spell-trigger and spell-completion magic items. An argument could be made for a staff, since it derives all it's DC's and such from your caster level and ability modifier. The same could be said for an SLA.
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FAQ post on this. Apparently staves don't let you use such abilities either - SLAs don't appear to be addressed but I'd argue that the latter is distinct; there would be little point to Quicken Spell-Like Ability and its ilk if they could simply take Quicken Spell instead.
FAQ post on this. Apparently staves don't let you use such abilities either - SLAs don't appear to be addressed but I'd argue that the latter is distinct; there would be little point to Quicken Spell-Like Ability and its ilk if they could simply take Quicken Spell instead.
Thanks for the link.
I actually read a developer somewhere saying the only thing keeping people/monsters with spell-like abilities from using metamagic, was the absence of spell slots to put the increased power into.
This means you CAN use normal metamagic with spell-like abilities, albeit only if it increases the level slot by +0 (such as with Merciful Spell).
I actually read a developer somewhere saying the only thing keeping people/monsters with spell-like abilities from using metamagic, was the absence of spell slots to put the increased power into.
Well, that, and creatures with SLAs don't cast spells.
Well, that, and creatures with SLAs don't cast spells.I actually read a developer somewhere saying the only thing keeping people/monsters with spell-like abilities from using metamagic, was the absence of spell slots to put the increased power into.
Or rather, they don't USUALLY also cast spells. :P
Except for where specifically mentioned, spell-like abiltiies work just like spells in every way. That's explicitly stated in the rules for spell-like abilities. That's why a developer thought you could use metamagic with them, but for the slot problem.