Cover, adjacent ally and enemy

[Gabriel Albasombria]

Hi paizonians:

I was pretty sure that i saw that if you are behaind and ally and shoot an arrow to an enemy, adyacent, and in front of your ally that enemy cant get the +4 bonus from cover.

Im right?

(sorry for my english V_V)

[Talonhawke]

Soft Cover: Creatures, even your enemies, can provide
you with cover against ranged attacks, giving you a +4
bonus to AC. However, such soft cover provides no bonus
on Ref lex saves, nor does soft cover allow you to make a
Stealth check.

By this part of the rule book i would say they get the bonus

[Starglim]

edit: Your allies provide your enemies with cover as for any other creature in the way. Worse, if your ally is adjacent to your enemy, they are probably in melee, which applies an additional -4 to your shot.

[Midnight Angel]

Innocent question about shooting into melee...

If I shoot at a creature that is in melee, I receive the -4 (probably for having to take care not to hit the wrong chap...)

Let's say I don't care who I hit (enemies fighting one another for instance)... can I circumvent the -4 by stating 'I fire into the general direction, let's see who gets the arrow'?

[Azaneal]

Midnight Angel wrote:

Innocent question about shooting into melee...

If I shoot at a creature that is in melee, I receive the -4 (probably for having to take care not to hit the wrong chap...)

Let's say I don't care who I hit (enemies fighting one another for instance)... can I circumvent the -4 by stating 'I fire into the general direction, let's see who gets the arrow'?

By RAW I think you can´t circumvent the -4, but you could houserule a 50% of hitting your pal, or if you fail by 4 you´ll hit your ally.

[Quantum Steve]

Midnight Angel wrote:

Innocent question about shooting into melee...

If I shoot at a creature that is in melee, I receive the -4 (probably for having to take care not to hit the wrong chap...)

Let's say I don't care who I hit (enemies fighting one another for instance)... can I circumvent the -4 by stating 'I fire into the general direction, let's see who gets the arrow'?

Shooting or Throwing into a Melee

If you shoot or throw a ranged weapon at a target engaged in melee with a friendly character, you take a –4 penalty on your attack roll.

If you don't care who you hit, there's no penalty. Oddly, there's no chance to hit the other creature.