Mutagen I need help with

[chaoskin]

this what i need help with

APG wrote:

Mutagen (Su):When an alchemist brews a mutagen, he selects one
physical ability score—either Strength, Dexterity, or
Constitution. It’s a standard action to drink a mutagen.
Upon being imbibed, the mutagen causes the alchemist
to grow bulkier and more bestial, granting him a +2
natural armor bonus and a +4 alchemical bonus to the
selected ability score for 10 minutes per alchemist level.
In addition, while the mutagen is in effect, the alchemist
takes a –2 penalty to one of his mental ability scores. If
the mutagen enhances his Strength, it applies a penalty to
his Intelligence. If it enhances his Dexterity, it applies a
penalty to his Wisdom. If it enhances his Constitution, it
applies a penalty to his Charisma.

APG wrote:

Feral mutagen: Whenever the alchemist imbibes a
mutagen, he gains two claw attacks and a bite attack. These
are primary attacks and are made using the alchemist’s
full base attack bonus. The claw attacks deal 1d6 points of
damage (1d4 if the alchemist is Small) and the bite attack
deals 1d8 points of damage (1d6 if the alchemist is Small).
While the mutagen is in effect, the alchemist gains a +2
competence bonus on Intimidate skill checks.

my question is if i make a Feral mutagen would i get (Mutagen (Su),and Feral mutagen) or only Feral mutagen?

[Mathwei ap Niall]

You would get both.

This is the line you should pay attention to.

Whenever the alchemist imbibes a mutagen, he gains two claw attacks and a bite attack.

Any mutagen he drinks he gets the side affect of fangs and claws.

[BigNorseWolf]

You get both the ability score increase and the natural weaponry. Mr Hyde is both toothy and strong.

[Paul Watson]

My interpretation is that you'd get both. Feral mutagen does not say it replaces the effects of a mutgen, so I'd regard it as additional.

[chaoskin]

Mathwei ap Niall wrote:

You would get both.

This is the line you should pay attention to.

Whenever the alchemist imbibes a mutagen, he gains two claw attacks and a bite attack.

Any mutagen he drinks he gets the side affect of fangs and claws.

that what i thanking

[Mathwei ap Niall]

chaoskin wrote:

Mathwei ap Niall wrote:

You would get both.

This is the line you should pay attention to.

Whenever the alchemist imbibes a mutagen, he gains two claw attacks and a bite attack.

Any mutagen he drinks he gets the side affect of fangs and claws.

that what i thanking

Yah and a little trick he should know, it specifically says "any Mutagen", it doesn't have to be his mutagen or one he can benefit from. Steal your buddies (or the BBEG's) and down it and he gets his claws without taking an hour to brew another one.