Allowing Rangers & Paladins to cast spontaneously?


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Does anyone think this would be a problem? I'd keep them as having access to their whole list as they don't get a ton of spells anyways. All I'd be changing is making Spells Prepared into Spell Slots.

(If it makes any difference, Clerics & Druids have to keep a spell book like Wizards in my game.)


I'm probably far from the best resource for this question, but i like the idea that Paladins would be spontaneous casters. Though I'd make them choose spells known like other spontaneous casters.

Rangers - yah, i'm one of those guys who thinks rangers shouldn't be spell-casters, anyway.

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I agree, but there's archetypes for both if you want to remove your spellcasting.

My problem with making them choose is there isn't a precedent for a spontaneous caster who only gets 1-4. At least with 0-9 or 0-6 I have examples to base off of. And as I said, they really don't have that long or powerful of lists anyways.


usually spells known to spells per day you have about 2 more spells known over the amount of spells you can cast. Though bonus spells make it so you can cast all of your spells known at least once if your spell casting stat is high enough. So Id say prolly have them know like 1 or 2 more spells of each level that they can cast more than their spells per day.

Liberty's Edge

As long as you are willing to do the necessary tweaking, I don't see a problem with it at all. Give it a try and see how it goes!

I quite like the idea of a spontaneous paladin, actually ...

Eben TheQuiet wrote:
Rangers - yah, i'm one of those guys who thinks rangers shouldn't be spell-casters, anyway.

I like the way you think!

>>> Spell-less Ranger


I have given Ranger and Palidians 2 ways to go
1 same as allways pick each day huge list CORE, APG, CM, SPlat book, ect
2 Cast any thing from CORE as a list caster ie Warmage in 3.5


Marc Radle wrote:
Eben TheQuiet wrote:
Rangers - yah, i'm one of those guys who thinks rangers shouldn't be spell-casters, anyway.

I like the way you think!

>>> Spell-less Ranger

Yah, i already bought it. :D

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