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I already called New England, now if you have a part of New England you would like to run for me ... well we can work out a deal I am sure. But clearly from my post ... which happened before yours I called dibbs on New England. So looks like the Orc God gets his fiefdom and goblins in that area can help out and rule but they still have to pay me hommage. Way of the world with hierarchies, and I called it first.
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I don't think so, buddy! In New England, every goblin is equal and we bow to no orc!The decline and fall of our civilization has become more and more evident since the late 1960's; and is now accelerating rapidly due to our present Depression with its continuing high unemployment. I seriously doubt the United States will exist in thirty years. Chances are that it will break up into smaller countries/fiefdoms; and this breakup will be the start of a new dark age. God help us all- especially the young.Excellent I call dibbs on New England. I want to be called Count Gruumash. You heard it here when the US breaks up I get New England.
I did call dibbs so I am ruler of New England ... now if you choose to rule goblins equally ... well no problem by me. I just want my hommage as Count of New England. Count Gruumash.
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I did call dibbs so I am ruler of New England ... now if you choose to rule goblins equally ... well no problem by me. I just want my hommage as Count of New England. Count Gruumash.I don't think so, buddy! In New England, every goblin is equal and we bow to no orc!The decline and fall of our civilization has become more and more evident since the late 1960's; and is now accelerating rapidly due to our present Depression with its continuing high unemployment. I seriously doubt the United States will exist in thirty years. Chances are that it will break up into smaller countries/fiefdoms; and this breakup will be the start of a new dark age. God help us all- especially the young.Excellent I call dibbs on New England. I want to be called Count Gruumash. You heard it here when the US breaks up I get New England.
Squabble over your little chunks all you want, in the end you will all bow before your dark and terrible mistress. :)
I did call dibbs so I am ruler of New England ... now if you choose to rule goblins equally ... well no problem by me. I just want my hommage as Count of New England. Count Gruumash.I don't think so, buddy! In New England, every goblin is equal and we bow to no orc!The decline and fall of our civilization has become more and more evident since the late 1960's; and is now accelerating rapidly due to our present Depression with its continuing high unemployment. I seriously doubt the United States will exist in thirty years. Chances are that it will break up into smaller countries/fiefdoms; and this breakup will be the start of a new dark age. God help us all- especially the young.Excellent I call dibbs on New England. I want to be called Count Gruumash. You heard it here when the US breaks up I get New England.
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Squabble over your little chunks all you want, in the end you will all bow before your dark and terrible mistress. :)I did call dibbs so I am ruler of New England ... now if you choose to rule goblins equally ... well no problem by me. I just want my hommage as Count of New England. Count Gruumash.I don't think so, buddy! In New England, every goblin is equal and we bow to no orc!The decline and fall of our civilization has become more and more evident since the late 1960's; and is now accelerating rapidly due to our present Depression with its continuing high unemployment. I seriously doubt the United States will exist in thirty years. Chances are that it will break up into smaller countries/fiefdoms; and this breakup will be the start of a new dark age. God help us all- especially the young.Excellent I call dibbs on New England. I want to be called Count Gruumash. You heard it here when the US breaks up I get New England.
Not if you are in New England cause if you are there you will bow to me cause I am the Count ... or will be at least as soon as the United States falls apart.
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Nope no voting for the Count.
A tart from the water just gave me a magic sword and poof I am Count.
Them's the breaks kid, might as well get on board now I can get you a Baron job. What part of New England do you want?
Calling dibs is no legitimate basis for ordering society.
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Calling dibs is no legitimate basis for ordering society.Nope no voting for the Count.
A tart from the water just gave me a magic sword and poof I am Count.
Them's the breaks kid, might as well get on board now I can get you a Baron job. What part of New England do you want?
Sure it is. The "nobility" did it for thousands of years.
Hello, I have a message for one Count Gruumash? That's him over there? Thanks!
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!!
[Bang! Boom! Rat-a-tat-tat!]
You've been dealt the People's Will!
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You know what is really funny? I got this question, which is the Topic,
from watching the movie, "Revenge of the Nerds."
During the nerd's first party the Lambda Lambda Lambda representatives
attended to review, assess, and critique them. The representatives
attended the party in order to witness and be assured the nerds possessed
moral fiber and high standards of conduct. Then and only then would the
nerds be allowed membership into the Lambda Lambda Lambda organization
of national fraternities.
Well, at the party were nerd boys and nerd girls. One particular
nerd boy was too shy to kiss or even dance with a particular nerd girl.
So, trying to instead start an interesting conversation with this girl
he asked, "Would You Rather Live in the Ascendency of a Civilization or
its Decline?"
This was so dorky I laughed out loud, and immediately posted the question
here in 'Off Topic'
:-)
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Just had this conversation yesterday: If California seceded, it was concluded that Oregon and Washington would very quickly be going "Can we join you?" to which California would go "Sure, why not?"California should attack north and claim the entire west coast.Not gonna happen. We have a navy station here now!Nevada?
Oregon.
No one ever thinks of Oregon.
E'r read Ecotopia?
I just want my moonbase up and running before the whole of civilization collapses.
Come to think of it right now is fine.
It looks like the world is moving forward at the moment. But this may
only be a temporary.
On the bright side, we may get hit by a gamma ray burst.
(Bright... gamma ray burst... get it??)
Haven't you ever listened to an old person? Civilization is always declining
Haven't you ever listened to an old person? Civilization is always declining
ha! and hills are always going up hill.
Haven't you ever listened to an old person? Civilization is always declining
ha! and hills are always going up hill.
And thats WHY civilization is always declining.
Damn invention of the wheel..... and gosh dang you to heck gravity!
I just want my moonbase up and running before the whole of civilization collapses.
MOON BASE!
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Damn invention of the wheel..... and gosh dang you to heck gravity!
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I don't think the guy who invented the wheel was the genius of the bunch.
It was the guy who made a second wheel, and connected them with an axle.
Now, that guy is a genius.
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Well, since we're in America's dying days, the ascendancy.
US GDP grew by 400 billion last year, not exactly what I'd call "dying", but if you meant "The morals held by our grandparents are almost completely eroded" then yes I guess you have a point.
Also, to be pedantic, Brazil and Argentina are part of "America" and are in the top ten fastest growing nations in the world.
I would want to live in the ascendancy, be part of the ONWARD AND UPWARD crew ^_^
US GDP grew by 400 billion last year, not exactly what I'd call "dying", but if you meant "The morals held by our grandparents are almost completely eroded" then yes I guess you have a point.
Also, to be pedantic, Brazil and Argentina are part of "America" and are in the top ten fastest growing nations in the world.
I would want to live in the ascendancy, be part of the ONWARD AND UPWARD crew ^_^
Morals held by our grandparents? The past wasn't as beautiful as we say, actually.
No, what I mean by dying is the fact that America is now a dictatorship ruled by corporate interest, with an ever growing gulf between rich and poor that is not going to close. The American experiment is over. It failed.
Before the modern era it wasn't "corporate" interest, because corporations as we know them today didn't exist. It was still the big money boys of the time. The robber barons or the plantation owners or shipping magnates or the banksters. It doesn't matter. It's all the same.
How early are you considering modern? The Boston tea party was about corporatism: A large share holder owned corporation got itself a tax break and an exemption to the government regulation everyone else had to operate under. It threatened to undercut mom and pop smugg... erm.. shipping.
Corporations are older than America, and they've been entwined with government almost from the get go.
The funny part is that the British tea taxes were providing better tea for lower prices. Unfortunately, that killed smuggling, as you said. That's pretty much what the American Revolution was all about.
I'll say it again:
There's usually more opportunities for decadent hedonism during the decline of a civilization than during its rise, so I opt for decline.
Orgies and binges and bloodsports, oh my!
Although, actually, I don't much care for bloodsports. Or sports, for that matter.
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Necro'd big time. But since this is an interesting topic:
I see the question and think, would I rather live in America's ascendancy or its decline? Well, I much prefer my own life to Oregon Trail for real (srsly that was the Kobayashi Maru of garde school games--no matter what you did, you just died a different way).
Another way to look at it would be, would I rather live in, say, India than the US? I think I'll stay with the US. India has problems with overcrowding, hygiene, education, and corruption. Here I have good coffee, indoor plumbing, cable Internet, reliable transportation, and clean food. I might not have those things if I lived in India.
Also, the sky is not falling in the US. Basically every generation thinks the same thing. Things would have to get a *lot* worse before we were ever in serious danger of jackboots marching through Walmart parking lots.
Decline, definitely. All the infrastructure is there and working, and we don't have to fix it!
Not fixing our infrastructure gives us more time to orgy!!
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Up, down. I'm the monkey with the gun.
Corporations were very different animals back then. Mercantilism rather than corporatism. Especially in the US for the first hundred years or so they were kept on a tight leash. That didn't change the domination by wealthy elites, just the form that they took.
In what way was the dutch east india party different than the modern military industrial complex or corporation?
Its for profit
Most of the ruling class is a member
The host country will go to war for you
The host country will secure your interests over that of the people
The host country will secure your interests over the interests of the host county because the benefit of the ruling class is not synonymous with the benefit to the country.
The host country will pass laws to your benefit (thats mercantilism)
Umm... high water mark?
One issue here is that we are too close to our own situation to see whether the overall trend is upwards or downwards. We do tend to focus more on what is bad than what is good, to the point that we may miss some unprecedented positive trends. Even in regard to the bad things, it is hard to determine whether our current situation is the beginning of the end or the point where we "hit bottom" before a renaissance.