Rage and Superstition


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When a barbarian goes into a Rage they gain morale bonuses of +4 STR +4 CON +2 to Will Saves and a penalty of -2 to AC.

I'm assuming that the CON bonus actually also adds +2 to the Fortitude Save through the ability boost - though it never says that in the ability.

So, would that mean that a level 2 Barbarian with Superstition would get:

+4 STR +4 CON (and hence +2 Fort) + 2 Will and another + 2 all saves vs spells?

For a total of

+4 Fortitude vs Spells
+2 Reflex vs Spells
+2 Will vs Spells (because it doesn't stack with normal rage bonus)

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2nd level superstitious barbarian saving throws vs spells while raging:

Fort 5 + new CON modifier (3 base, 2 from superstitious)
Ref 2 + DEX modifier (2 from superstitious)
Will 2 + WIS modifier (2 from rage which doesn't stack with superstitious)

You get a total +4 from rage to Fort (2 superstitious, 2 from +4 CON), +2 to Ref, and +2 to Will (you take the higher bonus of rage or superstitious; right now they are the same).


Both rage and the superstition rage power provide a morale bonus to Will saves, and bonuses of the same type don't stack, sadly.


Joana wrote:
Both rage and the superstition rage power provide a morale bonus to Will saves, and bonuses of the same type don't stack, sadly.

Yes, the question was more towards the Fortitude Buff, but it is good to have reinforcement of the will save not stacking.

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Also keep in mind some of these save bonuses are not explicitly bonuses to will saves, but rather saves against spells, SLA's, and so on.

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