| Cerunnos |
(Sorry for the late reply, just found this thread and it's interesting enough I thought I'd contribute. :) )
So guys, what do you think would be an appropriate favored weapon for Christianity?
/ducks under the table
The Longsword. DEFINITELY the Longsword. The angel at the gate of Eden had/has a flaming sword, and not to mention Luke 22:36 where Jesus tells his followers to sell their cloaks if they have no money to buy a sword.
That or the Staff.(though as far as the Clerics, I have a pet peeve that they ALWAYS wear armor. There should be an alternate version that was built for use without armor, I think. There are plenty enough examples of it in history and religion. Don't tell me Moses wore fullplate. :P)
As for domains, I think you could work with the "pick any domain" rule, but I also think there would be some domains that would always go with the religion and some that will never go with it. For instance, Law, Glory, and Healing seem like they'd always go with Christianity, and I doubt you'd see Evil, Chaos, Madness, and Scalykind in there.
| Tom_Kalbfus |
Priests were not allowed to shed blood, out of that the classical mace was invented.
Killing is killing, and it doesn't matter how the deed is done, it is a violation of one of the ten commandments. A cleric who is forced by circumstances to kill in self defense or in defense of his comrades will of course seek confession with a higher member of his order, because it is assumed that all men (and women) are sinful, and that they must confess and ask for forgiveness in order to go to heaven. I really don't think the Church distinguishes between swords or maces, it is the deed that is to be avoided whenever possible, of course this being an imperfect world, the deed can't always be avoided, and people confess their sins just to cover their bases.
| Tom_Kalbfus |
(Sorry for the late reply, just found this thread and it's interesting enough I thought I'd contribute. :) )
Gorbacz wrote:So guys, what do you think would be an appropriate favored weapon for Christianity?
/ducks under the table
The Longsword. DEFINITELY the Longsword. The angel at the gate of Eden had/has a flaming sword, and not to mention Luke 22:36 where Jesus tells his followers to sell their cloaks if they have no money to buy a sword.
That or the Staff.(though as far as the Clerics, I have a pet peeve that they ALWAYS wear armor. There should be an alternate version that was built for use without armor, I think. There are plenty enough examples of it in history and religion. Don't tell me Moses wore fullplate. :P)
As for domains, I think you could work with the "pick any domain" rule, but I also think there would be some domains that would always go with the religion and some that will never go with it. For instance, Law, Glory, and Healing seem like they'd always go with Christianity, and I doubt you'd see Evil, Chaos, Madness, and Scalykind in there.
But in a Christian universe, there is always the Devil to cover Evil, Chaos, and Madness. There is a saying, "Where there is light, there is also shadow." As an example of a sort of Christian setting there is of course Narnia. Aslan the Lion is simply that universe's incarnation of Christ/God, the "White Witch" is an incarnation of the Devil.
| Tom_Kalbfus |
Urgh.... it's bad enough when people think that paladins and clerics can't have sex, we don't need anything adding to the confusion. Sure it will work for you, but I'm tired of pointing out to people, about the paladin's "sure, go ahead" position on intimate intercourse, or the cleric's "...what's your alignment? that will determine the available options for sex" position on the subject. The paladin's a bit loser on the subject, because if anyone is willing to throw away their paladin-hood for sex, then they don't deserve to be a paladin.
Only some denominations of Christianity don't allow their priests to have sex, not all. Even in the dark ages there were heretical sects of Christianity where priests had sex.
A seperate issue is how spells are granted.
I would suggest that a Monotheistic God is likely to grant spells on a case by case basis. The Cleric needs to pray real hard at the time of need, and have faith, and if God finds the Cleric worthy the spell is granted and is cast immediately by God Himself. Most of the time God doesn't answer, and a spell cast would count as direct divine intervention. When one is praying to God for a spell, there are no level limits, the lower level spells are more likely to be granted than the higher level ones, the spell level would modify the chance of the spell being granted. There are no verbal or somatic components of the spell, the effects just happen as if cast directly by God, which it is. I'd say for game purposes, there should be a base 1% chance of divine intervention if prayed for by a worthy christian, possibly 2% for an actual cleric doing the praying, modified by adding the cleric's level, and subtracting the level of the cleric needed to cast the particular spell prayed for. A christian cleric cannot pray for spells ahead of time, he must first encounter the circumstances that require the spell and then pray for divine intervention and hope that God is listening. A Christian cleric's ability to turn undead is as normal for Pathfinder clerics.