Magic Item Creation - cost is a pre-requisite?

[Kagg the Bardarian]

As they're listed in the Core Rulebook, it appears that the cost to create an item is a "Construction Requisite". That means that according to the rules, taking a +5 to the DC to create an item allows you to "ignore" it as a requisite, since the only mandatory requisite that isn't "ignore-able" is the item creation feat itself.

Is this true?

[Tilnar]

Scott Wilson 440 wrote:

As they're listed in the Core Rulebook, it appears that the cost to create an item is a "Construction Requisite". That means that according to the rules, taking a +5 to the DC to create an item allows you to "ignore" it as a requisite, since the only mandatory requisite that isn't "ignore-able" is the item creation feat itself.

Is this true?

No. You need the materials to make the item.

[thepuregamer]

Tilnar wrote:

Scott Wilson 440 wrote:

As they're listed in the Core Rulebook, it appears that the cost to create an item is a "Construction Requisite". That means that according to the rules, taking a +5 to the DC to create an item allows you to "ignore" it as a requisite, since the only mandatory requisite that isn't "ignore-able" is the item creation feat itself.

Is this true?

No. You need the materials to make the item.

This is the rules forum, when you refute something you should back it up with a quoted section. If you cannot find a rule covering the issue, it is perfectly fine to say that his interpretation may be an oversight.

Regardless though I am sure Scott knows that a DM would never let this happen. The conversation would go like this--
"I want to make a magical item and do it without using the materials by raising the craft dc by 5." The dm will respond, "you want to make a magical item for free?" He will respond, "yes." and the dm will promptly respond, "no".

[Kagg the Bardarian]

Scott Wilson 440 wrote:

As they're listed in the Core Rulebook, it appears that the cost to create an item is a "Construction Requisite". That means that according to the rules, taking a +5 to the DC to create an item allows you to "ignore" it as a requisite, since the only mandatory requisite that isn't "ignore-able" is the item creation feat itself.

Is this true?

Disregard. I read a misprint on a website, the website listed magic items as:

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Construction Requirements
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<requirements>;Cost: <costs>

PF Core rulebook (actual book) listed magic items as this:

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Construction
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Requirements <requirements>;
Cost: <costs>

[Tilnar]

thepuregamer wrote:

Tilnar wrote:

No. You need the materials to make the item.

This is the rules forum, when you refute something you should back it up with a quoted section. If you cannot find a rule covering the issue, it is perfectly fine to say that his interpretation may be an oversight.

Thanks for the snark, but I'm not new here, and the quoted section would be the entirety of the magic item creation text.